Bicycle Black Market

Bicycle Black Market

Postby Hornswoggle » Aug 28th, 2018, 1:42 pm

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/2 ... ack-market

You got to be kidding me. Cops can’t shut down a bicycle chop shop?
What’s the problem? Did the city issue them a business license so it’s legal.
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Re: Bicycle Black Market

Postby lensbaby » Aug 28th, 2018, 2:17 pm

"Our neighbour has been bringing in stolen bikes quite frequently." How does Mr Dear recognize a stolen bicycle as opposed to a Thrift Store/Goodwill bicycle?

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Re: Bicycle Black Market

Postby WalterWhite » Aug 28th, 2018, 2:22 pm

lensbaby wrote:"Our neighbour has been bringing in stolen bikes quite frequently." How does Mr Dear recognize a stolen bicycle as opposed to a Thrift Store/Goodwill bicycle?


Yea, I'm sure he's completely mistaken about this thriving entrepreneur just trying to eek out enough savings to put himself through medical school. smh
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Re: Bicycle Black Market

Postby gman313 » Aug 28th, 2018, 2:24 pm

it's pretty obvious I see the street folk riding down the street carrying bike parts all the time.....you know, the ones coming and going from the same supply circle in City Park all day long

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Re: Bicycle Black Market

Postby StraitTalk » Aug 28th, 2018, 2:25 pm

I don't know why people are surprised cops can't just march onto anybodies property and snoop around or make allegations. As someone who would like a minute alone with any bike thief, be smart and prove it first. Going to Castanet isn't being smart, it is going to tick your neighbor off though.

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Re: Bicycle Black Market

Postby gman313 » Aug 28th, 2018, 2:27 pm

StraitTalk wrote:I don't know why people are surprised cops can't just march onto anybodies property and snoop around or make allegations. As someone who would like a minute alone with any bike thief, be smart and prove it first. Going to Castanet isn't being smart, it is going to tick your neighbor off though.


exactly, without direct evidence linking an individual to stolen property they will never get a warrant to step foot inside the house.

A member of the public can easily burn it down at night though, then the fire investigators and rcmp will attend. We have to take our city back

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Re: Bicycle Black Market

Postby alanjh595 » Aug 28th, 2018, 2:46 pm

lensbaby wrote:"Our neighbour has been bringing in stolen bikes quite frequently." How does Mr Dear recognize a stolen bicycle as opposed to a Thrift Store/Goodwill bicycle?


Price ? OR will exchange bike for drugs, is a pretty good indicator of the legitimacy.
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Re: Bicycle Black Market

Postby savvybusinessman » Aug 28th, 2018, 4:38 pm

gman313 wrote:A member of the public can easily burn it down at night though


Arson is illegal:

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-433.html
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Re: Bicycle Black Market

Postby Jflem1983 » Aug 28th, 2018, 4:50 pm

savvybusinessman wrote:
gman313 wrote:A member of the public can easily burn it down at night though


Arson is illegal:

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-433.html



So is aiding and abetting a criminal .
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Re: Bicycle Black Market

Postby W105 » Aug 28th, 2018, 4:58 pm

kind of bizarre this was recently in the news...

Bike theft problem getting worse in Kelowna

Five bicycles are stolen in Kelowna every day, according to the city’s crime prevention supervisor.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4406726/bike ... n-kelowna/

and then you see this...

Bicycle black market?

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/2 ... ack-market



and this place (totally looks sketchy to me and I believe the neighbor) doesn't cause more interest with the RCMP ??

find out who the Landlord is and ask permission to enter the property..also call Bylaw, see what they can dig up to help...

I mean seriously shut this chit down...anybody with a brain knows what's going on...
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Re: Bicycle Black Market

Postby pieinthei » Aug 28th, 2018, 6:19 pm

I had this happening next door to me, along with drug dealing, plenty of other thievery, od's and everything else.. and yes, I called police constantly, as well as crimestoppers, bylaws and anyone else that would listen. NOTHING was resolved until I tracked down the owners in Texas. I made their life a living hell until they sold. I now have a safer family, neighbors and friends. My method isn't for everyone, but it worked for me. ALSO.. last I heard, possession of stolen property was illegal. Law enforcement needs direction!
Maybe there should be a raid at that "shelter" on Leon.. i'd guess that alot of bikes (among other stolen items) could get returned to their rightful owners.

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Re: Bicycle Black Market

Postby Relentless » Aug 28th, 2018, 6:26 pm

lensbaby wrote:"Our neighbour has been bringing in stolen bikes quite frequently." How does Mr Dear recognize a stolen bicycle as opposed to a Thrift Store/Goodwill bicycle?

There are about 15 of us who have been watching this convict grinding serial numbers off and repainting bikes from midnight to 4 a.m.
Even those who have warrants for their arrest have visited this squatter who is living in an Illegal basement suite.
We watch bikes being delivered after dark, as well take pictures of the new bikes arriving that get painted a different color right after the serial number gets ground off. Some people even have video footage of these events.

The RCMP didn't even respond to a 911 call for an outstanding warrant for a repeat offender who stayed overnight at this location. It appears that, as long as the wanted convict is out of sight from an officer, nothing can be done.

Along with this "chop shop" is drug dealing, obviously in trade for the newly painted bikes.

I guess that the convict burying stuff in the ground after he read a Facebook post about his operation means nothing!

Bike theft is a serious problem in Kelowna, our Mayor and the RCMP have failed to provide adequate patrols to deter and catch those responsible. To add insult to injury, the criminals have so many rights that the cops can't touch them.

Old school methods might have to be introduced to deter this activity in the future.

In the meantime, lets keep handing out free Methadone, needles and drug paraphernalia to the junkies, so they can keep the circle of theft going!
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Re: Bicycle Black Market

Postby Ken7 » Aug 28th, 2018, 8:04 pm

I'd love to be a officer of the law still.

With the technology today, chips and locators it wouldn't take long to bait a bike or two and then follow them to the local chop shop.

Funny how every homeless buggy jockey has wheels, must be the crypto coin of the downtown. No bike, but I've got wheels for trade. Again, bait a few high end bikes and do them.

Sadly, bike thieves do progress to car thieves, you need to catch them in their early stages and you might save a few of them from climbing the ladder.

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Re: Bicycle Black Market

Postby Relentless » Aug 28th, 2018, 8:35 pm

Ken7 wrote:With the technology today, chips and locators it wouldn't take long to bait a bike or two and then follow them to the local chop shop.

This is the just of the problem, why can't the RCMP use Bait Bikes in all the problem areas to catch all the junkie thieves and at least slow the thefts down?
I'm sure if they started catching these junkies, the rest would know they are being watched and quite possibly think twice before stealing another bike......

We shouldn't have to suggest this, the cops should have already started this Bait Bike program a few years ago.
The powers that be, are failing to provide adequate property crime protection, bike registration doesn't stop junkies from grinding off serial numbers and spray bombing stolen bikes, as to not be identified.
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Re: Bicycle Black Market

Postby Ken7 » Aug 28th, 2018, 8:48 pm

Relentless wrote:
This is the just of the problem, why can't the RCMP use Bait Bikes in all the problem areas to catch all the junkie thieves and at least slow the thefts down?
I'm sure if they started catching these junkies, the rest would know they are being watched and quite possibly think twice before stealing another bike......

We shouldn't have to suggest this, the cops should have already started this Bait Bike program a few years ago.
The powers that be, are failing to provide adequate property crime protection, bike registration doesn't stop junkies from grinding off serial numbers and spray bombing stolen bikes, as to not be identified.


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