Homeless house strikes fear

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Postby WalterWhite » Jan 9th, 2019, 7:05 pm

Scrobins94 wrote:The problem likely isn't Hearthstone. The problem could be the other homeless/junky friends of the residents of Hearthstone. This is why we need the supportive housing at Agassiz Rd (and other supportive housing projects) to go through so all these people are put in a path to recovery and reintegration. :smt045


Even after acknowledging one of the major concerns with these facilities, you still beat the drum of supporting it being located in a residential neighbourhood made up mostly of elderly residents? smh
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby Scrobins94 » Jan 9th, 2019, 8:41 pm

The seniors should have no concerns. Nearby businesses of Hearthstone noticed little to no changes. Like the article says, it must be the nature of the business of the hotel that attracts them.

Also seniors are just old citizens. Why are they more special than say, residents of Rutland or anywhere else?
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby WalterWhite » Jan 9th, 2019, 9:07 pm

Scrobins94 wrote:The seniors should have no concerns. Nearby businesses of Hearthstone noticed little to no changes. Like the article says, it must be the nature of the business of the hotel that attracts them.

Also seniors are just old citizens. Why are they more special than say, residents of Rutland or anywhere else?


Alrighty then - thanks for confirming what’s been suspected for some time - your comments are nothing more than attempts at trolling members trying to have rational, sensible discussions. I’ll no longer consider your comments having any value.
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby one wheel » Jan 9th, 2019, 10:35 pm

Hard to believe that Gaelene Askeland of JHS could say she is unaware of a problem that's maybe 200 metres away ?

How many months or years have IFTC / JHS / BC HOUSING & COK had to put a group together but still need more time ?

It's a very expensive gong show we are watching.

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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby W105 » Jan 10th, 2019, 5:58 am

"seniors are just old citizens" well wow, when did you figure that one out ?? they have every right to question how this complex might affect them living so close by...again, if this was a "dry" facility which makes a lot more sense if the goal is to truly help these people..then I'm sure most people wouldn't have a problem with it...

the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result...

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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby Grandan » Jan 10th, 2019, 7:18 am

W105 wrote:"seniors are just old citizens" well wow, when did you figure that one out ?? they have every right to question how this complex might affect them living so close by...again, if this was a "dry" facility which makes a lot more sense if the goal is to truly help these people..then I'm sure most people wouldn't have a problem with it...

the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result...


The dry facility does not work in all situations that is why it is insane to keep trotting it out as the be-all and end all of solutions. People change when they want to. Accept it.
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby Fancy » Jan 10th, 2019, 7:29 am

Grandan wrote:
W105 wrote:"seniors are just old citizens" well wow, when did you figure that one out ?? they have every right to question how this complex might affect them living so close by...again, if this was a "dry" facility which makes a lot more sense if the goal is to truly help these people..then I'm sure most people wouldn't have a problem with it...

the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result...


The dry facility does not work in all situations that is why it is insane to keep trotting it out as the be-all and end all of solutions. People change when they want to. Accept it.

I believe the point is where this particular facility is going and that the seniors feel unsafe considering the circumstances. It's certainly understandable considering the problems that have surrounded other facilities. Businesses aren't residences either.
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby W105 » Jan 10th, 2019, 7:37 am

no one will ever convince me that a person who is in recovery, which by the way is THEIR personal choice to stop using will do well with being housed with other drug using addicts who are not in recovery...

just ask any recovered addict...being sober and staying sober for an addict is hard enough...living/being around any temptation for a relapse makes zero sense..
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby the truth » Jan 10th, 2019, 8:20 am

WalterWhite wrote:
Scrobins94 wrote:The seniors should have no concerns. Nearby businesses of Hearthstone noticed little to no changes. Like the article says, it must be the nature of the business of the hotel that attracts them.

Also seniors are just old citizens. Why are they more special than say, residents of Rutland or anywhere else?


Alrighty then - thanks for confirming what’s been suspected for some time - your comments are nothing more than attempts at trolling members trying to have rational, sensible discussions. I’ll no longer consider your comments having any value.


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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby the truth » Jan 10th, 2019, 8:23 am

one wheel wrote:Hard to believe that Gaelene Askeland of JHS could say she is unaware of a problem that's maybe 200 metres away ?

How many months or years have IFTC / JHS / BC HOUSING & COK had to put a group together but still need more time ?

It's a very expensive gong show we are watching.

i know this woman a little and i know someone who works for here,its all about her nothing else, she is as cold as it comes make no mistake about that
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby the truth » Jan 10th, 2019, 8:26 am

W105 wrote:no one will ever convince me that a person who is in recovery, which by the way is THEIR personal choice to stop using will do well with being housed with other drug using addicts who are not in recovery...

just ask any recovered addict...being sober and staying sober for an addict is hard enough...living/being around any temptation for a relapse makes zero sense..



100%.. correct,
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby the truth » Jan 10th, 2019, 8:30 am

one wheel wrote:Hard to believe that Gaelene Askeland of JHS could say she is unaware of a problem that's maybe 200 metres away ? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ so what she really is saying is how clueless she is ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

How many months or years have IFTC / JHS / BC HOUSING & COK had to put a group together but still need more time ?

It's a very expensive gong show we are watching.
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby one wheel » Jan 10th, 2019, 8:43 am

Exactly 100% correct W105 !!

I remember the counselor that talked to my group telling us if we completed the program & returned to live with the same drinking, pot smoking or crack users we would never recover.

He was correct then & IMO it's the same today.

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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby bjsilent » Jan 10th, 2019, 9:04 am

W105 wrote:no one will ever convince me that a person who is in recovery, which by the way is THEIR personal choice to stop using will do well with being housed with other drug using addicts who are not in recovery...

just ask any recovered addict...being sober and staying sober for an addict is hard enough...living/being around any temptation for a relapse makes zero sense..

It's all about money and The John Howard Society knows that!!! House them together and they will never recover from their addictions. Gaelene Askeland is a royal :swear: and she couldn't care less if these people beat their demons.It's all about keeping herself employed and creating more jobs for the organization she's employed with.

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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby one wheel » Jan 10th, 2019, 9:06 am

Is anyone familiar with the Crossroads Treatment Centre & why or what the problems were that had it close ?

I remember hearing that funding was always an issue but was there a lot more to it than that ?

They had great councillors that cared.

Was their problem that they only had one goal - to try to get people off their addictions ?
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