Homeless house strikes fear

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Postby one wheel » Feb 6th, 2019, 12:25 pm

Thank you 'die', the way you compared different addictions is 100% correct. Why do we have professionals that stumble so badly in separating those that require different treatment programs that could be beneficial ?
Is the real reason for this because there aren't places or spaces to give them what is needed ?
When the Government (taxpayer's) cover the tab & there is no ceiling or goal to end addictions, JHS & BC Housing have switched directions regarding recovery & love the cash flow coming in, & now it's 'wet facilities - r - us' .

Kamloops appears to have handled this problem properly & provides a shuttle service for those who are getting treatments.

Kelowna runs on 'style & not much content' as long as it looks good & is out of site everything in our Council's world is fine.
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby normaM » Feb 6th, 2019, 1:02 pm

I'd like to know what the homeless people think about a place that will allow addictions to continue.
Hate to be cynical but it sounds a bit like the agencies providing Services don't want their client base to vanish.
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby the truth » Feb 6th, 2019, 1:20 pm

normaM wrote:I'd like to know what the homeless people think about a place that will allow addictions to continue.
Hate to be cynical but it sounds a bit like the agencies providing Services don't want their client base to vanish.



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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby Scrobins94 » Feb 6th, 2019, 4:33 pm

They can't build this soon enough. We need projects like these desperately. Not just in Kelowna but across Canada.
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby WalterWhite » Feb 6th, 2019, 8:35 pm

This would have been a great fit for this property, just as residents had asked...

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/2 ... n-children
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby one wheel » Feb 6th, 2019, 10:00 pm

We can always hope that when Agassiz Rd. is ready to move into that some rational thinking will have taken place & it will be a used as a home for mothers & children ?

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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby wanderer » Feb 8th, 2019, 6:46 pm

I'm not sure if this will make a difference to people's opinions by I just found out Heath House is being run by the Canadian Mental Health Association (CMHA) Kelowna not the John Howard Society.
https://cmhakelowna.com/heath-house/
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby the truth » Feb 8th, 2019, 9:25 pm

wanderer wrote:I'm not sure if this will make a difference to people's opinions by I just found out Heath House is being run by the Canadian Mental Health Association (CMHA) Kelowna not the John Howard Society.
https://cmhakelowna.com/heath-house/



so can they do drugs also in this building ?
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby Lore » Feb 9th, 2019, 1:18 pm

the truth wrote:
so can they do drugs also in this building ?

Of course they can still do their drugs.
Can't have them quitting their drugs now can we.
Found this.
https://*bleep*.ca/newsitem/new-kelowna ... es/it59187

Edtted to add that link won't copy but
yeah drug users move on in
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby Lore » Feb 9th, 2019, 1:23 pm

the truth wrote:

so can they do drugs also in this building ?

Will pm you the link since it won't copy here.
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby Fancy » Feb 9th, 2019, 1:32 pm

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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby Anonymous123 » Feb 9th, 2019, 1:52 pm

the truth wrote:so can they do drugs also in this building ?

Lore wrote:Of course they can still do their drugs.
Can't have them quitting their drugs now can we.
Found this.
https://*bleep*.ca/newsitem/new-kelowna ... es/it59187

Edtted to add that link won't copy but
yeah drug users move on in


Here’s a quote from the article:

Heath House, like other supportive housing projects, is a harm reduction facility where residents can consume drugs and alcohol in their own rooms or use an injection site where help is close at hand, if needed.
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby 643dpb » Feb 9th, 2019, 3:27 pm

dle wrote:Addiction is considered an "illness", a "disease" - like diabetes for instance.


Will the junkies living here get free needles and Naloxone kits? My wife was just diagnosed with gestational diabetes, she had to pay $75 for a pack of test strips yesterday. I have no sympathy for those who do not wish to help themselves. Has anyone done a cost benefit analysis of keeping these clowns alive? I shake my head every time I read the news, another handout to those who truly don't deserve it.

Quit coddling them, our society is going to *bleep*, fkin tired of this.

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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby the truth » Mar 5th, 2019, 11:39 pm

time to shut heartstone down already http://www.iheartradio.ca/am-1150/news/ ... -1.8990356 so wt :cuss:
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Re: Homeless house strikes fear

Postby dle » Mar 6th, 2019, 7:33 am

643dpb wrote:
dle wrote:Addiction is considered an "illness", a "disease" - like diabetes for instance.


Will the junkies living here get free needles and Naloxone kits? My wife was just diagnosed with gestational diabetes, she had to pay $75 for a pack of test strips yesterday. I have no sympathy for those who do not wish to help themselves. Has anyone done a cost benefit analysis of keeping these clowns alive? I shake my head every time I read the news, another handout to those who truly don't deserve it.

Quit coddling them, our society is going to *bleep*, fkin tired of this.



I don't consider addiction a "disease" but that's how the medical profession and others see it.

I certainly don't agree we should be paying one thin dime towards their addiction - I am however ok with some of my tax money going towards getting them OFF drugs.

I am sick and tired of being asked to pay to pay to enable them to do drugs - no, correct that, no one asked me if I would be interested in paying for them to continue to do drugs - they just take my tax money and use it for that.

I am TOTALLY in agreement with rehab etc - I am TOTALLY against wet houses, low barrier bs and allowing drug havens to infiltrate our downtown business area OR our residential areas. Outside of town rehabs with bus shuttles to where they need to go for services.

This situation downtown has taken away any tiny bit of empathy I felt for the addicts - the continued operation of Cornerstone is just making it worse. The city treat their downtown business owners terribly in this town by allowing this continued invitation to drug addicts from everywhere to come here and thrive in their addictions.

We will NEVER have enough homeless shelters or housing because there is a steady stream of druggies heading our way from tougher centres.

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