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Re: Lowlifes

Postby Vacancyrate » Dec 22nd, 2018, 11:19 am

Pink justice system.

4 months for stealing 100K from dying people.

Don't want "her" punishment to be too harsh and upset her.

Women receive 60% the jail time men do for the exact same crimes.
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby Kelownah » Dec 22nd, 2018, 11:23 am

She got 4 months for stealing $7k, read the story.
The Kelowna fraud will net her even more time.

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Re: Lowlifes

Postby Fancy » Dec 22nd, 2018, 11:30 am

She stole $6,000 from the Nanaimo organization before her theft was discovered in May 2017, and she was promptly fired. The alleged Kelowna theft was discovered at about the same time.

Steen pleaded guilty to fraud in Nanaimo last April, and on Thursday, a judge sentenced her to four months in jail followed by two years of probation.

She was also ordered to pay more than $17,000 in restitution to the NCHS, which included the non-profit's legal fees.


Seems fair compared to others.
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby one wheel » Dec 22nd, 2018, 11:33 am

It's terrible that this woman could be employed for 6 years & not 1 person ever checked the books or that no one noticed the slight shortfall of over a 109 thousand dollars ? This isn't a bit of coffee money gone missing, it's 18 thousand per year. How was that not noticed during the first year she was working ? Pretty sloppy booking I'd say ?

It must be such a letdown for those that care & donate to hear news like this.

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Re: Lowlifes

Postby dmctighe » Dec 22nd, 2018, 12:35 pm

Huge letdown "One Wheel" . We were one of those families that used Hospice during that time period, and despite so many needy charities we could have picked, we asked people to donate to Hospice in memory of my wife. I am beyond "angered" that some of the money raised by our friends and family went to feed her addiction to Gambling..... I agree that more checks and balances must be done to ensure our donations are used properly.

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Re: Lowlifes

Postby smoked_out » Dec 22nd, 2018, 2:22 pm

I simply cannot fathom how a person ( I use the term loosely with these two) could take money from dying people. They worked inside that building, and saw what was going on around them. I get angry just typing this. Four years would be almost justifiable for the Kelowna charge. Plus, when they get out, every penny is to be paid back, if it hasn’t been already. Hospice is such a wonderful service when you can no long look after your loved one at home. The caregivers are unbelievable. If you have to rip of someone, why did it have to be this loving place ? I am sure you stayed totally honest at the casino!


Soon, you will find another peaceful place where you can do some soul searching, four months worth in one case.
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby Even Steven » Dec 22nd, 2018, 2:25 pm

one wheel wrote:It's terrible that this woman could be employed for 6 years & not 1 person ever checked the books or that no one noticed the slight shortfall of over a 109 thousand dollars ? This isn't a bit of coffee money gone missing, it's 18 thousand per year. How was that not noticed during the first year she was working ?

Yes, you're right on all sides.

Unfortunately, the reason it happens is that in the effort to save money on bookkeeping and accountants, charities like this do their own books. She might have been in charge of it, and it's not that hard to hide it. Ideally, you want an outside bookkeeper and an outside accountant for year-end filings. They decided to save couple grand, and instead had $100K+ stolen from them.
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby Tony » Dec 23rd, 2018, 7:34 am

smoked_out wrote:I simply cannot fathom how a person ( I use the term loosely with these two) could take money from dying people. They worked inside that building, and saw what was going on around them. I get angry just typing this. Four years would be almost justifiable for the Kelowna charge. Plus, when they get out, every penny is to be paid back, if it hasn’t been already. Hospice is such a wonderful service when you can no long look after your loved one at home. The caregivers are unbelievable. If you have to rip of someone, why did it have to be this loving place ? I am sure you stayed totally honest at the casino!


Soon, you will find another peaceful place where you can do some soul searching, four months worth in one case.


Smoked_Out... I agree with everything you are saying, but please know that this sentence is NOT for the Kelowna issue. It was for an incident in Naniamo. They are both back in court on Jan 8 in Kelowna, well, probably by video now, for her second court appearance. They have not yet been convicted for the Kelowna crime, and have definitely not been sentenced.

If you read the article she was ordered to make restitution including legal fees to Naniamo, to the tune of $17,000. No money has been paid to either place as of yet. Not sure what happens if you don't make restitution if you are ordered to pay?
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby Symbonite » Dec 23rd, 2018, 12:51 pm

someone probably did see something in the books...but turned a blind eye because the squeaky wheel will probably be looking for a job....kinda like that other conversation about the bookkeeper that found some money missing at the Indian band in Keremeos and she ended up jobless...

keeping your job is easier than fighting for your job back...
**Disclaimer: The above statement is in my OPINION only.

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Re: Lowlifes

Postby kelbear25 » Dec 23rd, 2018, 2:05 pm

It's terrible that this woman could be employed for 6 years & not 1 person ever checked the books or that no one noticed the slight shortfall of over a 109 thousand dollars ? This isn't a bit of coffee money gone missing, it's 18 thousand per year. How was that not noticed during the first year she was working ? Pretty sloppy booking I'd say ?


This money too was taken as cash advances off a credit card. The bank and the board should have had restrictions on the credit card to prevent cash advances. This large sum of money missing, should have been noticed by someone much sooner than it was.

In this case I suspect the office manager eventually found about the missing money, and subsequently stole money as well. She is charged with stealing $69,000

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Re: Lowlifes

Postby the truth » Dec 23rd, 2018, 2:34 pm

agree 100%
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby RVThereYet » Dec 23rd, 2018, 2:59 pm

kelbear25 wrote:
It's terrible that this woman could be employed for 6 years & not 1 person ever checked the books or that no one noticed the slight shortfall of over a 109 thousand dollars ? This isn't a bit of coffee money gone missing, it's 18 thousand per year. How was that not noticed during the first year she was working ? Pretty sloppy booking I'd say ?


This money too was taken as cash advances off a credit card. The bank and the board should have had restrictions on the credit card to prevent cash advances. This large sum of money missing, should have been noticed by someone much sooner than it was.

In this case I suspect the office manager eventually found about the missing money, and subsequently stole money as well. She is charged with stealing $69,000


Imagine the interest charges alone on that amount of cash advance on a credit card ... with the amount of fraudulent activity out there these days I'm surprised the financial institution didn't flag it, maybe they did and it was the thief that was notified? She clearly knew how to cover tracks well to get away with it as long as she did.
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby the truth » Dec 23rd, 2018, 3:04 pm

she's the lowest of the low
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby smoked_out » Dec 23rd, 2018, 3:13 pm

Smoked_Out... I agree with everything you are saying, but please know that this sentence is NOT for the Kelowna issue. It was for an incident in Naniamo. They are both back in court on Jan 8 in Kelowna, well, probably by video now, for her second court appearance. They have not yet been convicted for the Kelowna crime, and have definitely not been sentenced.

If you read the article she was ordered to make restitution including legal fees to Naniamo, to the tune of $17,000. No money has been paid to either place as of yet. Not sure what happens if you don't make restitution if you are ordered to pay?[/quote]


Tony...I am aware the sentence for Nanaimo was four months. I was stating that four YEARS would be appropriate when the Kelowna charge goes to court.
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby GordonH » Dec 23rd, 2018, 4:16 pm

Anyone who steals from a organization that shows compassion on the dying, is in my books lower then pond scum.
Needs to pay back double whatever they took.
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