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Re: Lowlifes

Postby RVThereYet » Dec 23rd, 2018, 4:33 pm

GordonH wrote:Anyone who steals from a organization that shows compassion on the dying, is in my books lower then pond scum.
Needs to pay back double whatever they took.


Please don't insult the pond scum, it actually serves a purpose... it produces oxygen for one, while she only uses it up.

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Re: Lowlifes

Postby one wheel » Dec 23rd, 2018, 5:18 pm

Unless there are assets to sell, I don't think any of that money will be returned ? That $6,000 stolen from Nanaimo turned into $17,000 in total, so how much will the Kelowna Hospice amount of $109,818 plus legal expenses be ?
It's one thing for a Judge to say it must be repaid but how ? An inheritance maybe ?

After serving whatever time she is required to, just what company would hire her ? Who would bond her ?

It's an unfortunate mess that never should have happened & so sad for those who in their hearts gave with the thought being that they were helping a great cause.
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby GordonH » Dec 23rd, 2018, 5:50 pm

If they have some type of paycheque coming in then (court ordered) garnish it.
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby Bpeep » Dec 23rd, 2018, 8:16 pm

Does anyone know if bankruptcy might absolve her of the debt?
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby RVThereYet » Dec 23rd, 2018, 9:59 pm

Bpeep wrote:Does anyone know if bankruptcy might absolve her of the debt?


No, bankruptcy does not absolve any court imposed fines (restitution) and government debt (taxes etc.).The government and legal system do not look the other way once you have filed for bankruptcy. You still will be responsible for certain judgments imposed on you before you declared bankruptcy. Child support payments, spousal support, fines imposed for restitution, payments ordered because of a fraud conviction, and taxes are all charges that you will still have to pay after bankruptcy.
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby dirtybiker » Dec 23rd, 2018, 10:24 pm

If one cannot afford financial restitution it should be paid, in
full, through additional time in prison.

I've known a couple people in my past that took jail over levied fines.
I don't see why that couldn't be worked out in this (or any) case.
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby W105 » Dec 24th, 2018, 6:34 am

no, you can declare bankruptcy for income taxes...I know 2 people who have done so...you cannot for student loans, child support, alimony or anything that has to do with fraud..

these 2 pathetic "things" who decided that stealing from dying people ( it's shocking how powerful greed is in some people) will have to pay back every dime (or take more jail time) until the day Satan decides he wants them back...I sure hope that Social Worker that has been stealing from foster kids meets the same fate...

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Re: Lowlifes

Postby RVThereYet » Dec 24th, 2018, 11:56 am

W105 wrote:no, you can declare bankruptcy for income taxes...I know 2 people who have done so...you cannot for student loans, child support, alimony or anything that has to do with fraud..

these 2 pathetic "things" who decided that stealing from dying people ( it's shocking how powerful greed is in some people) will have to pay back every dime (or take more jail time) until the day Satan decides he wants them back...I sure hope that Social Worker that has been stealing from foster kids meets the same fate...



Income Taxes - In general, yes you can, but it will depend on how you "accumulated" the tax debt. The CRA has specific policies to deal with different scenarios. If you filed on time every year and are simply unable to pay, the CRA will look at you differently ("better") than as if you haven't filed for years, ignored the CRA, and are now looking at bankruptcy to absolve the debt. Note, this is specific to INCOME taxes, other tax debts can not be eliminated by declaring bankruptcy. Bankruptcy and tax law is complex, a little too complex to fully get into on this forum.

Student Loans - Yes you can (declare bankruptcy), if its been longer than 7 years - https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/bsf-osb.n ... 02057.html

The good news in case is, she can not use bankruptcy to get out of paying her restitution as it relates to the fraud charges.
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby niccia » Dec 28th, 2018, 1:27 pm

I agree - addiction or no addiction, they simply have no morals and they deserve to be held to the furthest extent of the law. I honestly believe everyone has to face their actions oneday.

I have lost all faith in humanity lately. You simply can't trust anyone and those that make the greatest attempt at ensuring they are seen as upstanding citizens and good people are usually the most suspect of all.

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Re: Lowlifes

Postby WalterWhite » Dec 28th, 2018, 3:10 pm

niccia wrote:I agree - addiction or no addiction, they simply have no morals and they deserve to be held to the furthest extent of the law. I honestly believe everyone has to face their actions oneday.

I have lost all faith in humanity lately. You simply can't trust anyone and those that make the greatest attempt at ensuring they are seen as upstanding citizens and good people are usually the most suspect of all.


Easy to say I know, but don't let the criminal/immoral actions of the few taint your view of the rest of the world - there's some good people out there - they just don't make for good headlines. (fortunately there are exceptions however: https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/2 ... e-honoured)
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby the truth » Dec 28th, 2018, 3:42 pm

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/2 ... e-honoured i have talked to brenda twice, she is a super super nice person. heart of gold as they say
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby lostinthevalley » Dec 30th, 2018, 5:56 pm

the truth wrote:https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/245510/Kelowna-nurse-honoured i have talked to brenda twice, she is a super super nice person. heart of gold as they say

Brenda really is a shining light in our city <3
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Re: Lowlifes

Postby Fancy » Mar 5th, 2019, 6:51 pm

One of the two women accused of stealing thousands of dollars from the Central Okanagan Hospice Association was sentenced to five months in jail Tuesday.

Melanie Gray, the former office manager at COHA, pleaded guilty to fraud over $5,000 last month in Kamloops.

She was accused of stealing $69,043 from the organization between February 2013 and November 2015.

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#250767
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5 months for hospice theft

Postby Kyoddie56 » Mar 5th, 2019, 9:35 pm

I think I will go on a thieving spree if you get off so easy.
What a pile of b.s.
Why did her partner in crime steal 6000 and get 4 months?
What is this world coming to, I think it pays to be Criminal...

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Re: Lowlifes

Postby smoked_out » Mar 6th, 2019, 11:01 am

As the sister of a man who was brutally murdered in this country, and his killer got FOUR years!!! Six months for what she did sounds about right for our lousy justice system. There is really no”justice”. I am not at all surprised at the outcome. I just wonder how the money will ever get repaid. Who would hire these disgusting people!
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