Carcass discovery

Re: Carcass discovery

Postby Gone_Fishin » Dec 31st, 2018, 8:49 pm

Fancy wrote:Dead deer are attractants to cats etc who are then attracted to dogs on leash. And there are bears that may not hibernate if the weather is good and there's food.


There are no bears out now. And cats aren't interested in road kill when the hills above Kettle Valley area are full of resident and wintering deer right now. If you don't want to encounter wild animals, stay home.
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Re: Carcass discovery

Postby Fancy » Dec 31st, 2018, 8:52 pm

Gone_Fishin wrote:There are no bears out now. And cats aren't interested in road kill when the hills above Kettle Valley area are full of resident and wintering deer right now. If you don't want to encounter wild animals, stay home.

I never said I don't want to encounter wild animals - love seeing them all - just not as road kill or in a habitat that makes it unsafe for pets and children. Seems cats are wandering through neighbourhoods so I wouldn't say they aren't interested in road kill if they come across one.
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Re: Carcass discovery

Postby Queen K » Dec 31st, 2018, 11:09 pm

Gone_Fishin wrote:
Queen K wrote:You seem to have an inside knowledge or source on the matter. Would you be able to pass on the "could have" part in a gentle and polite way?

And if leaving garbage out which attracts bears, "a fed bear is a dead bear" can result in a fine from by-laws, what does this conspicious spot near homes say about attracting coyotes and maybe bears in Spring?

I am no city person and have photographed my share of carcesses, bones and fur. But even I would find four in one spot hard to take in. And I agree on one point GF, that nature is wild and often messy should not shock nature hikers. You should see the butterfly photos on bear poop I took. :biggrin:


Carcasses are food for the forest, not garbage at all. Lots of critters depend on that protein source for survival. There's nothing there that would attract a bear in the spring - it will be completely cleaned up. Dogs are required to be on leash in a wildlife area, so law-abiders should have nothing to worry about when walking their pets, right?


Oh agreed, I'd never argue the point otherwise and if my post implied that they were garbage, I'm not sure how.
But I am saying, if garbage is bad to leave out near houses, why is it okay to leave carcasses so close to homes?

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Re: Carcass discovery

Postby Ken7 » Jan 2nd, 2019, 9:46 am

bigtimeoperations wrote:People should expect to see these types of things in the back country. However, that doesn't mean carcasses should be dumped in high profile areas. They need to be dumped further out, not right beside the road and literally 50 meters outside city limits.


Likely the same people who will drive six miles into the bush on a logging road and dump their *bleep* stained mattresses.

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Re: Carcass discovery

Postby Fancy » Jan 20th, 2019, 1:53 pm

Gone_Fishin wrote:There are no bears out now.

Apparently there are now.

Not all bears enjoy a peaceful slumber through the entire winter.

Members of the Around the Block Lumby Facebook page posted that they had recently spotted a bear near the North Okanagan community. But, Conservation Officer Micah Kneller says it is really not that uncommon for a bear to be up and about before spring.

“It's not out of the norm, especially when it's not that cold out,” said Kneller. “If they are disturbed or we get a warm snap, they can wake up, move around and then go back and den again.”

Kneller said bears don't truly hibernate.


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Re: Carcass discovery

Postby Gone_Fishin » Jan 20th, 2019, 2:12 pm

Fancy wrote:
Gone_Fishin wrote:There are no bears out now.

Apparently there are now.

Not all bears enjoy a peaceful slumber through the entire winter.

Members of the Around the Block Lumby Facebook page posted that they had recently spotted a bear near the North Okanagan community. But, Conservation Officer Micah Kneller says it is really not that uncommon for a bear to be up and about before spring.

“It's not out of the norm, especially when it's not that cold out,” said Kneller. “If they are disturbed or we get a warm snap, they can wake up, move around and then go back and den again.”

Kneller said bears don't truly hibernate.


https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#247135


Bears "hibernate" on what is known as active metabolic suppression. Some will poke their heads out during the winter, but won't be feeding or straying far as they can't metabolize food when their bodies are in this state.

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Re: Carcass discovery

Postby Fancy » Jan 20th, 2019, 2:23 pm

Oh relax. Bears do come out - end of story. And I know that first hand. It's easy to track them in the snow.
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Re: Carcass discovery

Postby trapp » Jan 20th, 2019, 10:03 pm

There was a bear out in Lumby just the other day by the way.
It is just fine to return carcasses to the wild, I do it all the time. Having said that it is not very responsible to dump them on the edge of town on the roadway or in a parking lot. It is just a short distance in multiple directions to reach forested areas.
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Re: Carcass discovery

Postby dorf007 » Jan 21st, 2019, 7:43 pm

As a hunter myself, I find this disturbing.
Not everyone agrees with hunting so WHY give them anything to complain about.
It is our responsibility to properly dispose of a carcass so it does not cause scavengers or predators to be attracted to it, and for the public to see.

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