Cycling paths & Rail trails

Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby Lloyd Johnson » Jan 2nd, 2019, 12:39 pm

Thanks to the City department that cleans the clears these trails; I appreciate it. I cycled to McCurdy Road & over to the Specialty Bakery.
I'm aware that Mr. Bruce Williams doesn't appreciate it. I pay property taxes, own a vehicle which is usually driven by my wife. This morning I met 3 other other cyclists prior to 0800, also met 6 pedestrians. So people do use this service.
Again thanks to the City Dept. & have a great 2019
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https://www.castanet.net/news/Letters/2 ... priorities

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Re: Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby gman313 » Jan 2nd, 2019, 1:51 pm

Agreed Lloyd! not to mention the equipment used on the path is not the same equipment used on the road so one has no impact on the other

We are very lucky to have this unique and growing set of trails in this city - absolutely love it

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Re: Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby RVThereYet » Jan 2nd, 2019, 3:04 pm

https://www.castanet.net/news/Letters/2 ... priorities

Contributed - Jan 2, 2019 / 11:02 am | Story: 245767

Misguided priorities

I am tired of our city being misguided by special interest groups.

It seems that if you are part of a minority group, our city will cater to your needs and along the way spend taxpayers' money, with a resultant rise in taxes.

As a case in point, on Dec. 27, the city sidewalk plow was clearing the Rail Trail. I would like to know how many people rode bicycles to UBC that morning?

It's bad enough that we paid for this land, then we had to pave it, and now it has a priority one for the snow plows.

I think, if it was possible, our current mayor and council should be impeached.

Bruce Williams, Kelowna


Maybe not many if any rode their bikes or walked to UBCO, but I'm sure some used it to get to work at or near the airport and the industrial area across from it. I for one am tired of people like Bruce Williams that *bleep* and complain about people that use alternate modes of transportation to get to and from work or other places they need to be.

"Impeachment" over snow removal on the rail trail ... Thanks for the laugh Mr. Williams... :130:

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Re: Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby WalterWhite » Jan 2nd, 2019, 4:00 pm

Lol - sorry Mr. Williams, but despite what you think, citizen’s taxes also go to support sport and leisure - of which the rail trail is now a substantial part and will continue to be heavily used for years to come - rain or shine.

ETA: his blood will likely be boiling when he discovers the Mission Creek Greenway, city park, waterfront park and other heavily used non-motorized corridors are also maintained throughout the winter - as they should be.
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Re: Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby gman313 » Jan 2nd, 2019, 4:17 pm

WalterWhite wrote:Lol - sorry Mr. Williams, but despite what you think, citizen’s taxes also go to support sport and leisure - of which the rail trail is now a substantial part and will continue to be heavily used for years to come - rain or shine.

ETA: his blood will likely be boiling when he discovers the Mission Creek Greenway, city park, waterfront park and other heavily used non-motorized corridors are also maintained throughout the winter - as they should be.


the nerve of plowing trails what has this city come to, heaven forbit should people get some exercise over the winter and stay in shape, reducing their load on the medical system

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Re: Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby cuba108 » Jan 2nd, 2019, 7:15 pm

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I cycled to and from the airport a couple of times over the holidays, saw many other cyclists, pedestrians and dog walkers. Thought to myself what a great city we have.I also pay some pretty hefty taxes, probably more than Bruce Williams.
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Re: Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby lesliepaul » Jan 2nd, 2019, 7:46 pm

At least a few are getting decent snow removal in this city!

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Re: Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby spooker » Jan 3rd, 2019, 3:25 am

They did the cycle track along Ethel before 8am Saturday morning ... though sadly the park at Bernard and Ethel is still not shovelled so pedestrians are having to share the cycle track with bikes since they sidewalks didn't get shovelled ... but I haven't seen a cyclist road rage at a walker for the invasion ...

Plowed and separated infrastructure helps bring out people that otherwise might grab their car keys ...
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Re: Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby Terris » Jan 4th, 2019, 12:04 am

Still no plowed rail trail between the airport and Lake Country...

If all citizens here are required to keep the sidewalks in front of their properties clear of snow for safety reasons, why have the owners of the Eldorado Ranch not yet done their civic duty on "their" portion of the public rail trail??

Why is Lake Country being denied equal access to this public transportation corridor and taxpaying citizens being forced to walk or ride along the highway??

What is the city afraid of here??
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Re: Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby LTD » Jan 4th, 2019, 10:01 am

most of that section is native land and in dispute and so is the section through the ranch but of course you already know this and are just somewhat obtuse

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Re: Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby spooker » Jan 4th, 2019, 10:08 am

Terris wrote:Still no plowed rail trail between the airport and Lake Country...

If all citizens here are required to keep the sidewalks in front of their properties clear of snow for safety reasons, why have the owners of the Eldorado Ranch not yet done their civic duty on "their" portion of the public rail trail??

Why is Lake Country being denied equal access to this public transportation corridor and taxpaying citizens being forced to walk or ride along the highway??

What is the city afraid of here??


1) I don't believe the section of the trail from the airport to Lake Country is open to the public
2) Trails and paths are not the responsibility of the home owners. Had to clarify this years ago when the Cawston MUP was installed in front of a friend's house.

It'd be interesting to find out if the Kelowna Operations Dept would be the one to take care of that section of the trail ...
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Re: Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby Giardinera1 » Jan 4th, 2019, 11:37 am

Lloyd Johnson wrote:Thanks to the City department that cleans the clears these trails; I appreciate it. I cycled to McCurdy Road & over to the Specialty Bakery.
I'm aware that Mr. Bruce Williams doesn't appreciate it. I pay property taxes, own a vehicle which is usually driven by my wife. This morning I met 3 other other cyclists prior to 0800, also met 6 pedestrians. So people do use this service.
Again thanks to the City Dept. & have a great 2019
Lloyd Johnson

https://www.castanet.net/news/Letters/2 ... priorities


Agreed. Such a selfish letter. I pay my property taxes dutifully, and I have never owned a vehicle. My 7 yo and I walk to his before school child care, and my work early every week day morning down the downtown Bike paths, as sidewalks are often not shoveled early enough for us. We have had 2 very near calls by vehicle driver's turning from driveways and not noticing us, so we avoid the main roads and sketchy sidewalks as much as we can. They are more likely to see us on the path. I also use the rail-to-trail paths to go jogging year round.

As someone who never drives, who leaves the down town area a handful of times a year, I'm helping to pay for extremely expensive road maintenance costs of suburban areas I'll never visit in my life. My lifestyle reduces infrastructure wear and tear, as well as the health care costs of a sedentary car-based life style. It all evens out in the end. Mr. Williams needs to chill.

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Re: Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby Terris » Jan 7th, 2019, 6:44 pm

LTD wrote:most of that section is native land and in dispute and so is the section through the ranch but of course you already know this and are just somewhat obtuse


Hmmm...

A "dispute" you say ?

Let's see here...

On the one hand you have a First Nations "claim" on land that they inhabited and held for millennia and which they never ceded.

On the other hand you have an A class member of a local real estate cabalist group, which are by now the second largest land owners in the province, second only to First Nations peoples, and who have made their land acquisitions, afforded them for not quite 6 decades, nearly wholly through direct political insider information/trading and whose roots are firmly anchored in old school British colonial bigotry.

The choice here is real simple.

Obtusely simple... :smt045

My vote is for the First Nations taking control of all these lands, whether they open the rail trail to the public or not.
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Re: Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby spooker » Jan 10th, 2019, 10:27 am

This is why we need snow clearing and separated infrastructure ... to enable 6-year-olds to ride to school

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(and yes, after Tuesday night's snow the downtown paths were cleared in the morning just before the bell rang)
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Re: Cycling paths & Rail trails

Postby gman313 » Jan 10th, 2019, 10:55 am

That's right spooker - my kids walk the same trail to Bankhead

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