One million stolen

Re: One million stolen

Postby Piecemaker » Jan 31st, 2019, 11:34 am

The agency that had the money stolen is a private business that receives contract money from CLBC to meet needs of certain clients of CLBC.
It would be like if an Argo Maintenance (or Acciona) accountant stole money from Argo Maintenance (orAcciona). It's not a direct theft from the Government.
If the contract requirements put forth by CLBC are being met, the service agency has done what it has been paid to do.
Theft from the agency is an internal matter and nothing to do with CLBC or the BC Government.
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Re: One million stolen

Postby Bikes » Feb 1st, 2019, 11:13 am

She is gonna take a beating in jail for this.
Stealing from those that can't protect themselves always inspires hate.
This ladies life is over as she knows it.
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Re: One million stolen

Postby TerriJ73 » Feb 1st, 2019, 11:57 am

Weird story
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Access Resources

Postby twofingers » Mar 12th, 2019, 5:32 pm

I can’t help but feel badly for them...allegedly defrauded of $1.8 million over the past several years. They list the following organizations as financial supporters:
Kelowna Community Resources
Community Living British Columbia
Ministry of Children and Family Development
Ministry of Social Development and Social Innovation
B.C. Aboriginal Network
B.C. Coalition of People with Disabilities
B.C. Family Net
Persons with Disabilities – Service Canada
Caregivers Association of BC
Public Guardian Office
Inclusion BC
CARF Canada
B.C. Human Rights Coalition
B.C. Community Living Action Group

My question...’If this organization can’t notice $1.8 million missing over several years, are they getting more financial support than they really need?’
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Re: Access Resources

Postby WalterWhite » Mar 12th, 2019, 6:02 pm


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Re: One million stolen

Postby Triple 6 » Mar 12th, 2019, 6:51 pm

I've merged the two. Thanks for the heads up .^^
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Re: One million stolen

Postby WalterWhite » Mar 14th, 2019, 9:28 am

This story just seems to keep getting more bizarre. "I didn't take anything - but if I did - Andrusko knew about it". Like, what??
Great FB photo used in the story btw...

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/2 ... dly-stolen

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Re: One million stolen

Postby the truth » Mar 14th, 2019, 9:44 am

adds nothing to the topic.
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Re: One million stolen

Postby dle » Mar 14th, 2019, 11:15 am

WalterWhite wrote:
In Doug's response, he notes that while he denies he was enriched by any alleged misappropriations, he says Access Resources “exhibited a lack of diligence in discovering the alleged misappropriations,” by failing to “make reasonable, if any, inquiries regarding account activity and expenses.”


I’ve read that paragraph several times, and the bold underlined text several more times, and my head hurts more each time I read it. Un-be-lievable. That, takes some serious balls to have a perception of one’s actions in that kind of light.



...and a big helping of some kind of psychological disconnection if he actually believes it!
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Re: One million stolen

Postby Fancy » Mar 14th, 2019, 11:28 am

The financial reports must have really been doctored to hide all the money stolen.

She says that both she and Andrusko would have been required to sign off on any transaction from corporate funds.
And so there would be some documentation to confirm that.
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Re: One million stolen

Postby yayaya » Mar 14th, 2019, 5:18 pm

Pretty simple A/B scenario here, as I see it.

A) the director/owner Andrusko, in fact did know about the missing funds and was also doing the same,in which case someone needs to look at his finances,
or
B) the director/owner Andrusko did not know about the missing 1.8 million (for 15 yrs!!), and he is an absolute incompetent, that doesn't deserve to be running a government funded agency for people with disabilities.

There are requirements that all agencies need to abide by, that would not allow 15 yrs to go by without 'balancing' the books, and being accountable to the government.

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Re: One million stolen

Postby TerriJ73 » Mar 14th, 2019, 10:46 pm

Didn’t piecemaker say at the top of this page that it wasn’t money stolen from the government, it was money stolen from the company
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Re: One million stolen

Postby yayaya » Mar 15th, 2019, 8:06 am

It is an agency that receives government money to support individuals with disabilities.
It is not non profit, which means they can make a profit, but if there is close to 2 million able to be stolen (and not missed for almost 15 yrs!), then it does beg the question that the monies received for supports are not being used appropriately .
Not to mention, the director is obviously not competent to be receiving these contracts and funds, if he has lost almost 2 million dollars.....part of which has to be government funds.
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Re: One million stolen

Postby Piecemaker » Mar 15th, 2019, 11:06 am

yayaya wrote:It is an agency that receives government money to support individuals with disabilities.
It is not non profit, which means they can make a profit, but if there is close to 2 million able to be stolen (and not missed for almost 15 yrs!), then it does beg the question that the monies received for supports are not being used appropriately .
Not to mention, the director is obviously not competent to be receiving these contracts and funds, if he has lost almost 2 million dollars.....part of which has to be government funds.


Access Resources is NOT a non-profit society. It is a CARF accredited agency (business) that can do whatever it wants with its profits.
It has multiple programs and offers many services. There are other agencies in Kelowna that are the same.
Like I said, it would be like if a company like Argo maintenance was paid to maintain roads and the accountant stole funds from it. It has nothing to do with the government.
The only thing the government concerns itself with is whether or not the contracts that are paid for are fulfilled. There is nothing to suggest that Access Resources has not fulfilled its contracts with those who have provided funding.
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Re: One million stolen

Postby Fancy » Mar 15th, 2019, 11:15 am

yayaya did say
not non profit
but I get the concern that government funds provided had been squandered away with the rest of the money. Unless the government funds were in trust they'd be pooled with all other funding. So now the question is were all criteria/contracts fulfilled/met? With all the money gone, something would either have to have suffered or there was a lot of padding to start with.
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