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Re: Single use plastic

Postby Anonymous123 » Jan 17th, 2019, 10:41 pm

Anonymous123 wrote:I’ll stop using single use straws when they ban single use diapers.

Edited to add: adult as well as baby diapers.


Jlabute wrote:Call it a double use straw and that fixes the whole problem. lol.


Are you suggesting to double use the diapers as well?
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Re: Single use plastic

Postby I Give Up » Jan 17th, 2019, 10:50 pm

Plastic straws, lids and bags are mostly symbolic of a more serious plastic waste, and represent a statement of over-packaging throughout the consumer suppliers. Unfortunately, many of the posts on this forum (ie, the ocean being miles away) and other lame excuses, are just silly.

A little awareness here, or a little there, could go a long way towards reducing waste.

I agree that the big box stores should start complaining to their suppliers... lets face it, if Costco tells the egg producers to go back to cardboard wrapping, the egg producers might have to listen. I am sure there are other egg suppliers who can give Costco, the egg containers if they ask for. Same goes for Save-on, Safeway, Loblaws .. virtually all the box stores. If they won't do anything, then the various municipal governments should step up and make some noise.

I hate it when politicians are afraid to take a stand and don't want to rock the boat. I'm sorry, but most of the excuses for doing nothing on this topic are simply ridiculous and show some rather shallow thinking.
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Re: Single use plastic

Postby OKkayak » Jan 18th, 2019, 11:45 am

I Give Up wrote:I agree that the big box stores should start complaining to their suppliers... lets face it, if Costco tells the egg producers to go back to cardboard wrapping, the egg producers might have to listen. I am sure there are other egg suppliers who can give Costco, the egg containers if they ask for. Same goes for Save-on, Safeway, Loblaws .. virtually all the box stores. If they won't do anything, then the various municipal governments should step up and make some noise.

Here's the thing, let's say (I don't know if it is or not), the cardboard containers cost more than the plastic containers. Who's going to pay for it? You and me, and that's where people tend to get real pissy. So there is also a question of costs.
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Re: Single use plastic

Postby I Give Up » Jan 18th, 2019, 12:49 pm

Yeah, I know, costs seem to dictate lots of things, but additional costs are not always a bad thing.

"Jlabute"'s earlier post in this thread was very well presented and showed the reason plastic is popular... most of the reasons are cost related.

However, somewhere along the way, Canada, North America, Kelowna, will have to commit to trying to make a difference.

We are all able to watch TV in normal mode, but I'll bet most of us are paying extra for HD, and feel it's worth the price.
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Re: Single use plastic

Postby Jlabute » Jan 18th, 2019, 1:25 pm

The issue with cardboard or any paper fiber products is that they 'might' be more recyclable, but they take a lot more resources to manufacture and distribute, and they put a LOT more CO2 in to the air.

(not that this is an issue to me... but to CO2 fanatics it will be. The non-alarmists would like feedback from the alarmists that a lot more CO2 is ok with them.
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Re: Single use plastic

Postby Catsumi » Jan 18th, 2019, 1:37 pm

I still do not understand why long english cucumbers are hermetically sealed individually in a plastic wrap. It prevents the cuc from breathing with the result is that they develop an off-taste and go punky so fast.

Or, maybe the skintight covering is to prevent them from breeding?? [icon_lol2.gif]
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Re: Single use plastic

Postby oneh2obabe » Jan 18th, 2019, 1:47 pm

^^^English cucumbers are longer and thinner than field cukes - skin is thinner and edible and aren't waxed so they are usually sealed in plastic to prevent damage during shipping.
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Re: Single use plastic

Postby Jlabute » Jan 18th, 2019, 1:55 pm

Catsumi wrote:I still do not understand why long english cucumbers are hermetically sealed individually in a plastic wrap. It prevents the cuc from breathing with the result is that they develop an off-taste and go punky so fast.

Or, maybe the skintight covering is to prevent them from breeding?? [icon_lol2.gif]


I always thought the opposite :-)
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Re: Single use plastic

Postby GordonH » Apr 18th, 2019, 4:23 pm

This is Vancouver report, sooner or later it will be here.
Styrofoam food containers impo is just a tiny amount of styrofoam being used, so much stuff is packed with styrofoam. Probably 1 of the only retailers with a lack of styrofoam would be clothing.
Chances are if those compactors used were transparent everyone would see how much is used to ship merchandise to retail outlets.

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Re: Single use plastic

Postby Catsumi » Apr 19th, 2019, 6:59 pm

A personal story, if I may.

Ordered a contour memory foam pillow from Amazon in recent days. It arrived promptly :biggrin: , wrapped in clear plastic, inserted into a cardboard box, then inserted again into another box for shipping. The first box would have done nicely with a shipping label attached. This is a pillow, unbreakable, not in need of hard casing protection for pete's sake.

Overpackaged!? You bet it was.

Now I have to flatten and squirm pieces of cardboard into blue box with the thought that this "garbage" was once a home to birds, squirrels and a carbon repository for our doings. Now in the trash.

My biggest B.itch of course and will always be, nail hardener products packaged in bear-proof plastic with a carboard casing teaser outer layer. Guaranteed you'll break your nails attempting to get into this evil genius packaging.
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Re: Single use plastic

Postby MAPearce » Apr 19th, 2019, 7:55 pm

Catsumi wrote:A personal story, if I may.

Ordered a contour memory foam pillow from Amazon in recent days. It arrived promptly :biggrin: , wrapped in clear plastic, inserted into a cardboard box, then inserted again into another box for shipping. The first box would have done nicely with a shipping label attached. This is a pillow, unbreakable, not in need of hard casing protection for pete's sake.

Overpackaged!? You bet it was.

Now I have to flatten and squirm pieces of cardboard into blue box with the thought that this "garbage" was once a home to birds, squirrels and a carbon repository for our doings. Now in the trash.

My biggest B.itch of course and will always be, nail hardener products packaged in bear-proof plastic with a carboard casing teaser outer layer. Guaranteed you'll break your nails attempting to get into this evil genius packaging.


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Re: Single use plastic

Postby Catsumi » Apr 19th, 2019, 8:25 pm

We both attended and excelled in Purple Prose and Dreadful Descriptor classes, high honours attained whilst swilling from the same decanter.
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Re: Single use plastic

Postby Country plough boy » Apr 20th, 2019, 5:39 am

Breast implants are single use plastic
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Re: Single use plastic

Postby Jlabute » Apr 20th, 2019, 6:46 am

^^ condoms too. I don’t think people would want paper ones.
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Re: Single use plastic

Postby Country plough boy » Apr 20th, 2019, 6:49 am

Jlabute wrote:^^ condoms too. I don’t think people would want paper ones.



Well maybe the tree huggers

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