Encampment frustrates local landowner

Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby Mark1111 » Jan 28th, 2019, 11:06 pm

https://globalnews.ca/news/4899638/kelo ... landowner/

The owner tries to clean up the mess these people leave behind several times and the city gives him a ticket?? Unbelievable. What more can he do?
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Re: Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby Fancy » Jan 28th, 2019, 11:29 pm

Mark1111 wrote:https://globalnews.ca/news/4899638/kelowna-homeless-encampment-frustrates-local-landowner/

The owner tries to clean up the mess these people leave behind several times and the city gives him a ticket?? Unbelievable. What more can he do?


Put a big fence up with "No Trespassing" signs. Sad as that is.
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Re: Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby stevemic » Jan 28th, 2019, 11:54 pm

They will just cut through it,repaired many fences. work it that area and the hobo highway(rail trail)is full of them.I find needles and garbage quite often
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Re: Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby soupy » Jan 29th, 2019, 8:10 am

High pressure sprinkler system on the property.
"just wanted to keep my trees hydrated"

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Re: Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby motokelowna1 » Jan 29th, 2019, 8:19 am

Well done Bylawless ppl why dont you get in and help the poor guy.
If you have a tractor do some land cultivation at night.
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Re: Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby alanjh595 » Jan 29th, 2019, 8:48 am

motokelowna1 wrote:Well done Bylawless ppl why dont you get in and help the poor guy.
If you have a tractor do some land cultivation at night.


Why wait until night time? Deep plow with a D-8 bulldozer and then cover generously with manure. Repeat as needed.
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Re: Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby Fancy » Jan 29th, 2019, 9:19 am

The City says they want to work with the homeowner but I don't recall hearing any advice or how they can help.
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Re: Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby wanderer » Jan 29th, 2019, 9:37 am

Ya the city helps by bringing in their dump trucks, loading up debris and then charging the landowner for the whole shebang. There should be some kind of assistance that does not penalize the landowner.


Edited: My post was not meant to target the Union which I believe in.
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Re: Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby wanderer » Jan 29th, 2019, 9:38 am

The city should clean up any homeless messes for free or at a subsidized rate. It is their actions that have helped to increase the homeless population here. Just my opinion.
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Re: Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby normaM » Jan 29th, 2019, 9:47 am

They shouldn't be issuing the Property Owner fines.. and he has to clean it constantly :(
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Re: Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby soupy » Jan 29th, 2019, 9:51 am

wanderer wrote:The city should clean up any homeless messes for free. It is their actions that have helped to increase the homeless population here. Just my opinion.


So if the city recruits volunteers to clean up homeless camps without pay you will be first in line to help right?
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Re: Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby alanjh595 » Jan 29th, 2019, 9:59 am

soupy wrote:
wanderer wrote:The city should clean up any homeless messes for free. It is their actions that have helped to increase the homeless population here. Just my opinion.


So if the city recruits volunteers to clean up homeless camps without pay you will be first in line to help right?


Sounds like a good way for those that community service hours.
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Re: Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby wanderer » Jan 29th, 2019, 10:12 am

I am not the one responsible for NO REAL affordable housing UNTIL it has become a crisis. Affordable housing that is 5% below the market value has not addressed the homeless or working poor accommodation problem for the past 15 years, which is part of the reason for homelessness. Maybe the city councilors and city planner and managers, and developers (who have been getting rich on real estate) should be out there volunteering.
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Re: Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby youjustcomplain » Jan 29th, 2019, 10:15 am

wanderer wrote:The city should clean up any homeless messes for free. It is their actions that have helped to increase the homeless population here. Just my opinion.


Nothing is free. When you suggest people do work, you must know it comes at a cost.

If the city did the work, you'd be angry that they pay to cause the problem then pay to fix it. There is no way to win when you just look for reasons to complain.

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Re: Encampment frustrates local landowner

Postby Mark1111 » Jan 29th, 2019, 10:18 am

It should not be the owner's responsibility to clean it up at all.
1) These people are trespassing so they get arrested and taken to jail. That's what needs to happen to start with.
2) Then the city comes in and cleans this up.
3) No where in this process should the landowner be held financially responsible in any way for the results of trespassing.

Yes our taxes pay for that but that's what taxes are for.
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