Innovative Housing Project

Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby alanjh595 » Feb 5th, 2019, 2:48 pm

They would be working on projects to help support others within their community and become self-supporting. Those that "work" can receive extra income that they can choose to spend on extras, like cable, private internet, extra TV channels, or they can save and build a nest egg for when they choose to leave and rejoin society.
It's up to them. They have the choice as to what and the way that they choose to live.
One thing for sure is that, they don't have easy access to drugs or alcohol.
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Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby the truth » Feb 5th, 2019, 3:06 pm

WalterWhite wrote:Finally something positive decided by council. I don't know the finer details of this proposed development but on the surface it seems great that an employer can, as I understand, be able to offer employees a reasonable alternative to housing locally. As stated it's for employees only, and won't be everyone's cup of tea, but hats off to Emil Anderson Construction for not only thinking outside the box, but putting put together a project with enough positive attributes to get council's support for what is not your typical residential development proposal. Now, if only they could see to do this with some of the supportive housing proposals.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/2 ... ing-lauded


so all city hall did was say yes, so what city hall did is nothing ,everyone else did the work
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Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby WalterWhite » Feb 5th, 2019, 3:14 pm

alanjh595 wrote:They would be working on projects to help support others within their community and become self-supporting. Those that "work" can receive extra income that they can choose to spend on extras, like cable, private internet, extra TV channels, or they can save and build a nest egg for when they choose to leave and rejoin society.
It's up to them. They have the choice as to what and the way that they choose to live.
One thing for sure is that, they don't have easy access to drugs or alcohol.


Not sure if I'm understanding this correctly, or if you as well as a couple of others are not reading the story behind this proposal. So, to clarify - it's not a supportive housing complex.
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Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby 36Drew » Feb 5th, 2019, 3:39 pm

alanjh595 wrote:They would be working on projects to help support others within their community and become self-supporting. Those that "work" can receive extra income that they can choose to spend on extras, like cable, private internet, extra TV channels, or they can save and build a nest egg for when they choose to leave and rejoin society.
It's up to them. They have the choice as to what and the way that they choose to live.
One thing for sure is that, they don't have easy access to drugs or alcohol.


You fall under the "didn't read the article" category. You should re-read it.

If it goes ahead, the rental units would be available for employees only, and not available on the market. Emil Anderson would also relocate its offices to the third floor.


This is not a supportive-housing/community-housing/rehab project at all. It's company housing. For employees of Emil Anderson Construction. It's right there in the article, if you just took a moment to make it past the headline and picture.
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Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby countmeout » Feb 5th, 2019, 3:58 pm

36Drew wrote:This is not a supportive-housing/community-housing/rehab project at all. It's company housing. For employees of Emil Anderson Construction. It's right there in the article, if you just took a moment to make it past the headline and picture.


Reading comprehension is hard haha.

It would be a new and worth trying supportive housing idea but the fact that it is just for regular employees is reason for my opposition post earlier.

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Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby MAPearce » Feb 5th, 2019, 4:45 pm

Not sure if I'm understanding this correctly, or if you as well as a couple of others are not reading the story behind this proposal. So, to clarify - it's not a supportive housing complex.


I just reread it Wally..

seems to me that an employer who pays about average wages for the work, wants to build rental housing for it's employees .. That's how I see it ...

And there are actually people here calling the company down for that ...

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Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby WalterWhite » Feb 5th, 2019, 4:52 pm

MAPearce wrote:
Not sure if I'm understanding this correctly, or if you as well as a couple of others are not reading the story behind this proposal. So, to clarify - it's not a supportive housing complex.


I just reread it Wally..

seems to me that an employer who pays about average wages for the work, wants to build rental housing for it's employees .. That's how I see it ...

And there are actually people here calling the company down for that ...

Sad really .


Lol - yea, I thought it was pretty straightforward. Says a lot not only about people's perception of company's trying to do right by their own employees - but of some people's reading comprehension (or lack thereof) and reactionary posting.
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Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby 36Drew » Feb 5th, 2019, 4:54 pm

countmeout wrote:the fact that it is just for regular employees is reason for my opposition post earlier.


I don't know that it's a bad idea at all. Your primary concerns:

countmeout wrote:The workplace will know when you have guests over, partners stay over, when you are actually sick if you call in sick.

Am I wrong and this is a good idea? Does anyone else worry about being too joined with an employer? What if you take a new job, guess you hand in your notice of tenancy cancelation too.


Those concerns all hinge on the arrangement of the employee living in company housing. If an employee wants a greater level of privacy or autonomy, they can choose to go rent/buy elsewhere and commute to work. No one is pointing a gun at their head and telling them they absolutely must live there. You, personally, might not like to live in company-owned housing. That's a choice. As a citizen who is neither employee nor employer, the above concerns are not really yours to have as they have zero impact upon you. If you were an employee, you would still have a choice as to where to live.

countmeout wrote:What about on the business side, what if people refuse to leave, cause disturbances? Are they protected by the same rental rights? Could be a headache for the business.


Good question. I suspect it will be roughly equivalent to a camp worker (mining/forestry/other) who is provided accommodation from their employer and is subsequently dropped from the payroll. I have no experience or knowledge of that - perhaps someone else here does?
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Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby MAPearce » Feb 5th, 2019, 5:02 pm

Lol - yea, I thought it was pretty straightforward. Says a lot not only about people's perception of company's trying to do right by their own employees - but of some people's reading comprehension (or lack thereof) and reactionary posting.

I know right ?

I can only imagine the benefits for the company . When I was in the place I described earlier , not only was it convenient for both myself and my employer , but also " Ole Greg" as he had pretty much 24/7 security and someone who worked next door who covered any graffiti left in the night before . It never saw the light of day ..

The employer knows that having a workforce so close is one benefit but by making use of land perhaps idle or unused being put to benefit their employees will bring many , MANY loyal , long term workers while generating revenue for the company to survive their "hard times" never mind those who work for them .. I doubt anyone who gets layed off would get the boot while on EI until the next project comes in ..
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Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby WalterWhite » Feb 5th, 2019, 5:36 pm

MAPearce wrote:
Lol - yea, I thought it was pretty straightforward. Says a lot not only about people's perception of company's trying to do right by their own employees - but of some people's reading comprehension (or lack thereof) and reactionary posting.

I know right ?

I can only imagine the benefits for the company . When I was in the place I described earlier , not only was it convenient for both myself and my employer , but also " Ole Greg" as he had pretty much 24/7 security and someone who worked next door who covered any graffiti left in the night before . It never saw the light of day ..

The employer knows that having a workforce so close is one benefit but by making use of land perhaps idle or unused being put to benefit their employees will bring many , MANY loyal , long term workers while generating revenue for the company to survive their "hard times" never mind those who work for them .. I doubt anyone who gets layed off would get the boot while on EI until the next project comes in ..


Too much common sense, so some will have a problem with it...
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Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby Mark1111 » Feb 5th, 2019, 7:45 pm

This is a very good start for this company and they will benefit from this endeavor, and of course so will the employees, which is the obvious point. It’s the wave of the future if you want to draw employees to your company in this town. Very smart. Their first steps towards a BCorp designation.
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Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby Vacancyrate » Feb 5th, 2019, 8:04 pm

I used to joke that companies like Walmart would stop paying people altogether and just offer them food (day old's from the bakery and almost expired stuff from the store) and shelter (ATCO trailers behind the Walmart).

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Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby LTD » Feb 5th, 2019, 8:09 pm

yes I agree how dare a company try and help their employees by providing them with affordable housing shame on them we should run them and their decent paying jobs outta here :crazy:

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Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby 60-YEARS-in-Ktown » Feb 5th, 2019, 8:20 pm

36Drew wrote:
GordonH wrote:Well, if residents work in the area. Less chance of them maybe b****ing & complaining of the noise & smells. A twist on the old company housing i.e mines & sawmills etc... etc


It's company housing, built on company property, and attached to the company office. By that very definition, they would have to be employed by the company and therefore work in the area. It's exactly like housing at mines and sawmills, but without the mine or the sawmill.

Except you are not in a remote location, and you are in a town of 100, 000 people, 12 minute walk to pubs, restaurants, coffee shop even closer..
Jeez sounds better than camp already..
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Re: Innovative Housing Project

Postby 60-YEARS-in-Ktown » Feb 5th, 2019, 8:26 pm

I am going to relate what an employer on the same block told me around 8 or ten years back..
They got all kinds of applicants from out of town checking out a job that paid over 30 bux an hour,...
But when they found out what it cost to buy a house here, most were not willing to relocate.

That employer and Emil Anderson are not chintzy on wages..

So I suspect that is part of why they do this. They pay well but it's hard to get high experience guys to move here..
Dont want to live where you work, dont..
But it sure makes it easier to get into a job in a new town.
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