Black Mountain Land sale

Black Mountain Land sale

Postby workingclasshero » Feb 11th, 2021, 12:28 pm

I heard that the Coldstream Ranch bought the property. Coldstream Ranch had their cattle
the past two years.
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Re: Black Mountain Land sale

Postby alanjh595 » Feb 11th, 2021, 12:46 pm

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Re: Black Mountain Land sale

Postby pthfndr » Feb 11th, 2021, 1:19 pm

Pretty sure it is going to be a cherry orchard and the work has already begun

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Re: Black Mountain Land sale

Postby Gone_Fishin » Feb 11th, 2021, 2:49 pm

pthfndr wrote:Pretty sure it is going to be a cherry orchard and the work has already begun


And that will destroy another parcel of endangered grasslands that are crucial winter range for mule deer, whitetailed deer, elk, and a host of other animals.
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Re: Black Mountain Land sale

Postby Boosted632 » Feb 11th, 2021, 2:55 pm

The deer will be fine theres a million miles of forest full of deer food
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Re: Black Mountain Land sale

Postby voice of reason » Feb 11th, 2021, 3:13 pm

Boosted632 wrote:The deer will be fine theres a million miles of forest full of deer food

and a new orchard to feed on . good luck ever keeping deer out of there

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Re: Black Mountain Land sale

Postby Gone_Fishin » Feb 12th, 2021, 8:48 am

Boosted632 wrote:The deer will be fine theres a million miles of forest full of deer food


Forests aren't the best source of food for wintering ungulates. That's why they winter beside open south-facing slopes, so they can actually find food.

Mule deer are in decline because of habitat loss. This particular habitat is rare and any net loss will further exacerbate their decline.
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Re: Black Mountain Land sale

Postby LANDM » Feb 12th, 2021, 9:51 am

The beauty of private land is that people had lots of opportunity to buy it and donate it as grazing ground in perpetuity.

It didn’t seem like anyone was prepared to do that, strangely enough.
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Re: Black Mountain Land sale

Postby TylerM4 » Feb 12th, 2021, 9:56 am

Deer populations have literally NEVER been higher. Really not worried about them. :130:

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Re: Black Mountain Land sale

Postby LANDM » Feb 12th, 2021, 10:01 am

voice of reason wrote:
Boosted632 wrote:The deer will be fine theres a million miles of forest full of deer food

and a new orchard to feed on . good luck ever keeping deer out of there

Deer fences do it all the time. It’s not rocket science.....just a barrier.
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Re: Black Mountain Land sale

Postby Gone_Fishin » Feb 12th, 2021, 10:33 am

TylerM4 wrote:Deer populations have literally NEVER been higher. Really not worried about them. :130:


You're incorrect. The decline of mule deer in the Southern Interior is well documented.


A new, large-scale research project, involving multiple agencies and universities, has started to tackle one of the most pressing needs in wildlife management in British Columbia – how to understand and reverse declines of mule deer in the Southern Interior. With contributions from Indigenous people, the public, stakeholders, and industry, this project brings together cutting-edge research on deer ecology with multiple partnerships to advance both evidence and cooperative-based approaches to wildlife conservation.

“Mule deer declines have been a concern in portions of the southern interior since the 1960s, and decades of hunting regulation change have not reversed the declines,” said Jesse Zeman, Director of Fish and Wildlife Restoration, BC Wildlife Federation.

A combination of fire suppression, timber extraction, highways, urban sprawl and other factors affect the movement and size of mule deer populations in the Southern Interior of B.C. Sophie Gilbert, an Assistant Professor at the University of Idaho and co-investigator on the project, said, “in addition to landscape change, things like increases in competitor or predator species may also be affecting mule deer, as we’ve seen in other parts of western North America, and we want to identify which drivers are most important in the Southern Interior.”

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Re: Black Mountain Land sale

Postby Boosted632 » Feb 12th, 2021, 10:39 am

Gone_Fishin wrote:
TylerM4 wrote:Deer populations have literally NEVER been higher. Really not worried about them. :130:


You're incorrect. The decline of mule deer in the Southern Interior is well documented.


A new, large-scale research project, involving multiple agencies and universities, has started to tackle one of the most pressing needs in wildlife management in British Columbia – how to understand and reverse declines of mule deer in the Southern Interior. With contributions from Indigenous people, the public, stakeholders, and industry, this project brings together cutting-edge research on deer ecology with multiple partnerships to advance both evidence and cooperative-based approaches to wildlife conservation.

“Mule deer declines have been a concern in portions of the southern interior since the 1960s, and decades of hunting regulation change have not reversed the declines,” said Jesse Zeman, Director of Fish and Wildlife Restoration, BC Wildlife Federation.

A combination of fire suppression, timber extraction, highways, urban sprawl and other factors affect the movement and size of mule deer populations in the Southern Interior of B.C. Sophie Gilbert, an Assistant Professor at the University of Idaho and co-investigator on the project, said, “in addition to landscape change, things like increases in competitor or predator species may also be affecting mule deer, as we’ve seen in other parts of western North America, and we want to identify which drivers are most important in the Southern Interior.”

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Re: Black Mountain Land sale

Postby Btfsplck » Feb 12th, 2021, 10:42 am

TylerM4 wrote:Deer populations have literally NEVER been higher. Really not worried about them. :130:

Whitetail are apparently doing fine, but as Gone_Fishin said, Mule deer populations are in decline. Recent changes in hunting opportunity and the reasons stated for this change is clear evidence that their numbers are in decline. There are lots of ongoing studies on their decline, just google it.
Cherries are good, but grasslands are better. :smt045

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Re: Black Mountain Land sale

Postby LANDM » Feb 12th, 2021, 4:22 pm

Btfsplck wrote:
TylerM4 wrote:Deer populations have literally NEVER been higher. Really not worried about them. :130:

Whitetail are apparently doing fine, but as Gone_Fishin said, Mule deer populations are in decline. Recent changes in hunting opportunity and the reasons stated for this change is clear evidence that their numbers are in decline. There are lots of ongoing studies on their decline, just google it.
Cherries are good, but grasslands are better. :smt045

There just aren’t enough buyers to buy huge tracts and leave as grassland.
Perhaps a gofundme could be started and tens of millions could be raised to retain land in its natural state for the deer? :130:
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Re: Black Mountain Land sale

Postby oldtrucker » Feb 12th, 2021, 7:02 pm

LANDM wrote:There just aren’t enough buyers to buy huge tracts and leave as grassland.
Perhaps a gofundme could be started and tens of millions could be raised to retain land in its natural state for the deer?


And at $12k/acre....that's not that bad for land around here
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