Policing Plan

Policing Plan

Postby deedub » Feb 24th, 2021, 8:18 am

Nice to see the downtown area getting more police attention , 10 per cent of the calls , so 90 per cent don't matter . Makes sense to someone .
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Re: Policing Plan

Postby oneh2obabe » Feb 24th, 2021, 8:32 am

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Re: Policing Plan

Postby Fancy » Feb 24th, 2021, 8:34 am

deedub wrote:Nice to see the downtown area getting more police attention , 10 per cent of the calls , so 90 per cent don't matter . Makes sense to someone .
Of course the rest matter. With tourist season around the corner it just makes sense.
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Re: Policing Plan

Postby cv23 » Feb 24th, 2021, 8:53 am

With tourist season around the corner it just makes sense.

Yet due to the ongoing pandemic the local hotel owners tell us we haven't had tourists for over a year and our government has tightened travel restrictions for the foreseeable future not loosened them.
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Re: Policing Plan

Postby Fancy » Feb 24th, 2021, 8:55 am

Still seeing Alberta plates so can only guess tourists don't have to come from out of country.
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Re: Policing Plan

Postby the truth » Feb 24th, 2021, 9:05 am

ya, with all these condo's being built now the city wants to make the future condo buyers feel that they are safe, to bad the city did not care years ago, its all about big money$$$$
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Re: Policing Plan

Postby Fancy » Feb 24th, 2021, 9:18 am

It's always about money - affording more police officers has always been an issue.
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Re: Policing Plan

Postby workingclasshero » Feb 24th, 2021, 12:13 pm

What about arresting the drug dealers? What about patrols in Rutland?
What about the use of canines for arrests? What about communications
with the public? What about an easy way to talk to the police?
the RCMP have a long way to go.

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Re: Policing Plan

Postby Mrmarvingardens » Feb 25th, 2021, 12:13 pm

RCMP are busy making sure that people can "peacefully protest" each Saturday.
To quote the police chief they don't want to interfere with peoples constitutional rights.
Right now they are busy writing letters to Bonnie Henry.
They are mad at her for comments she just made about the RCMP policy in they way they deal with drug overdose
cases.
Also, they are busy changing the rules, by introducing new policies to recruit more women to the force :200:
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Re: Policing Plan

Postby TrailRunner2010 » Feb 26th, 2021, 6:30 pm

workingclasshero wrote:What about arresting the drug dealers? What about patrols in Rutland?
What about the use of canines for arrests? What about communications
with the public? What about an easy way to talk to the police?
the RCMP have a long way to go.


They do arrest the drug dealers and other criminals, the courts let those people go the same day. The police do have officers dedicated to working Rutland every day, every night, every shift, just like the rest of the city. What is your question about using canines for arrest, was there something else? Lastly, if you want to speak to the police they are a phone call away or go to the station. If you feel there aren't enough police to go around, then complain to the city or to the station. They need to hear that.

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Re: Policing Plan

Postby BTDT » Mar 11th, 2021, 12:59 pm

Looks like this policing plan is only concerned about the downtown area. What about other area's of the city? These criminals are active in many parts of the city or is crime ok in those areas?
As a former Community Policing volunteer I was around several years ago when Supt. Bill McKinnon and Crime Prevention coordinator Garth Letcher opened up community police offices in Glenmore and the Mission to decentralize and provide facilities for the police and community volunteers to work out of. A lot of money was spent upgrading those facilities. Glenmore is closed and soon the Mission office will be gone. Now Police officers will have to travel to the main building to do their file work,interviews etc, and not readily available to respond to urgent calls or have a presence in those communities. What happened to community Policing?
I am sure that if the residents and businesses in the Mission/South Pandosy area were made aware of this closure and the impact it will have they would certainly have something to say. Were they ever consulted?

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Re: Policing Plan

Postby Mrmarvingardens » Mar 12th, 2021, 1:00 pm

It seems that Kelowna having many of the problems of other cities of comparable size, has more than its share,of difficulties dealing with them.
For arguments sake, lets examine several problems:
Traffic enforcement in Kelowna is almost non existent.Unless you count police police issuing tickets in gas station parking lots.
In Kamloops police are everywhere enforcing traffic laws.
Kamloops police patrol the parks on horseback, a very effective method of policing.Not to mention the p.r. it brings
Kelowna created this John Deere gator, painted white that used to buzz sidewalks, manned by two Happy fellas ordering female sunbathers to fasten their bikini tops.
Haven't seen it for some time.
Kelowna seems to spend an inordinate amount of time on p.r work as opposed to policing.
One example that was totally over the top: awarding accolades to 2 officers for the most distracted driving tickets...WHOAH.
On the surface there appears to be a management of resources problem.Too much of something, and not enough of something else.
Unfortunately, this detachment has also had more than its share of internal problems, ranging from junior to senior ranks. Another new commander after resignations and transfers.Will things change? Certainly not if the main goal is hiring more female officers.

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Re: Policing Plan

Postby TrailRunner2010 » Mar 12th, 2021, 8:39 pm

Mrmarvingardens wrote:It seems that Kelowna having many of the problems of other cities of comparable size, has more than its share,of difficulties dealing with them.
For arguments sake, lets examine several problems:
Traffic enforcement in Kelowna is almost non existent.Unless you count police police issuing tickets in gas station parking lots.
In Kamloops police are everywhere enforcing traffic laws.
Kamloops police patrol the parks on horseback, a very effective method of policing.Not to mention the p.r. it brings
Kelowna created this John Deere gator, painted white that used to buzz sidewalks, manned by two Happy fellas ordering female sunbathers to fasten their bikini tops.
Haven't seen it for some time.
Kelowna seems to spend an inordinate amount of time on p.r work as opposed to policing.
One example that was totally over the top: awarding accolades to 2 officers for the most distracted driving tickets...WHOAH.
On the surface there appears to be a management of resources problem.Too much of something, and not enough of something else.
Unfortunately, this detachment has also had more than its share of internal problems, ranging from junior to senior ranks. Another new commander after resignations and transfers.Will things change? Certainly not if the main goal is hiring more female officers.

Kamloops police patrol parks on Horseback? Not likely in the last two decades.
As for your last comment about hiring female officers, yikes.
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Re: Policing Plan

Postby Mrmarvingardens » Mar 13th, 2021, 1:10 pm

RCMP on horseback were patrolling the parks at least in the last 5 years, during the summer months.
The same idea was proposed for Kelowna by Supt Mckinnon but it never materialized
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Re: Policing Plan

Postby TrailRunner2010 » Mar 13th, 2021, 1:39 pm

Mrmarvingardens wrote:RCMP on horseback were patrolling the parks at least in the last 5 years, during the summer months.
The same idea was proposed for Kelowna by Supt Mckinnon but it never materialized


It's a nice idea to have horseback units patrolling the parks, however, it is costly. Bike and foot patrol are used downtown these days, Kelowna has roughly 12 officers for this (at different times) and they focus on problem areas.
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