KGH-staff-feeling burned

[Piecemaker]

When one is ill, they do not want to hear a cacophony of shouting and honking horns.
When one is working and needing to focus on one's patients, they do not want to hear shouting and honking horns.

Perhaps, the patients would prefer watching nurses doing their tiktok dances ...

I am not on tiktok, but I don't imagine most nurses have even done a tictok dance. There is a time and a place for levity, even in a hospital. I doubt our KGH staff is dancing around the COVID patients in the ICU or in the morgue.

[dreamon]

These reprobates blocked access to hospitals, took parking from people needing to get into the hospital, intimidated people trying to get in an out of hospitals, generally unsavoury.

Provincial Gov't should use its emergency powers to make a bubble zone around hospitals, empower the police to enforce it with tear gas, failing tear gas a little alumagel will do the trick.

[bernie428]

Wow!!

Who are these "legitimate" health care workers of which you speak? Do they not work within the health care system, or are they the one's seen to be swimming against the streams of illegitimate, and illegal mandated compliance?

You're brain actually accepts and extrapolates, that 3 people organized and activated 10's of thousands against their will?

Hmmm...

There are literally thousands of doctors, nurses, researchers and legal experts who disagree with, and are speaking out against the vaccine, but you would have us accept that all this dissonance is caused by three people??

Hmmm...

Kinda weird, but I'll take this into consideration; because that's what free people do when discussing such life changing issues...

Nahh... Just kidding... What you've said makes no sense...

Like most protests, this protest has been a long time coming. It's not just a spontaneous reaction, and I'll bet this won't be the last...

Oh yeah...

Since you're now the arbiter of quackery, here's another view you can add to your list of denial...

https://un-denial.com/2021/07/20/dr-dav ... -illusion/

And there are thousands more we can parse through but who has the time.

Point being... If there are so many educated, "legitimate" doctors and health care practitioners, disagreeing with the current covid protocols how can anyone not similarly educated, "legitimately" declare who is right or wrong??

Therefore, Truly informed consent is NOT available to the masses or in any form of consensus here...

I'll see you at the Nuremberg Trials once all this has been sorted.

Vax at your own risk...

Literally thousands of doctors, nurses, researchers...
Where?
Sounds like literal BS.
And they can't organize themselves?
They rely and 3 quacks to lead the way.
And all the other thousands stay silent because it's a conspiracy, or they are afraid?

The term is called professional agitator.

[BC Landlord]

Provincial Gov't should use its emergency powers to make a bubble zone around hospitals, empower the police to enforce it with tear gas, failing tear gas a little alumagel will do the trick.

Indeed, comrade ...

[gman313]

These reprobates blocked access to hospitals, took parking from people needing to get into the hospital, intimidated people trying to get in an out of hospitals, generally unsavoury.

Provincial Gov't should use its emergency powers to make a bubble zone around hospitals, empower the police to enforce it with tear gas, failing tear gas a little alumagel will do the trick.

That should have been done to the pro life jesus freaks long ago

[cr125]

The Hospital is the wrong place to do your belly-aching.
Do these people not have a life? Maybe they should volunteer to help at the Hospital? instead of;
"Honey, I'm home from the *bleep* fest, did my cerb cheque come today?

[firsttimecaller]

How lovely for the sick patients inside the hospital trying to rest when that BS is happening on the street
Funny the protestors didn't want to ID themselves. If one feels strongly about something there should be no issue attaching one's name. Doubtful most of them are vaxxed
HOspitals had FA to do with the vaccine passport.

When one is ill, they do not want to hear a cacophony of shouting and honking horns.
When one is working and needing to focus on one's patients, they do not want to hear shouting and honking horns.

Honking horns can mean support. They can also mean "get the hell out of my way."
They can also mean a parade of a few vehicles that keep circling the block.
And yes, they can mean that there is support for doing away with the requirement of vaccination proof to access certain places and events.

Bang pots and pans. Patients love pots and pans. They hate horns honking, but they love pots and pans.

Additionally, they love pepper, but they hate cinnamon.

[firsttimecaller]

The Hospital is the wrong place to do your belly-aching.
Do these people not have a life? Maybe they should volunteer to help at the Hospital? instead of;
"Honey, I'm home from the *bleep* fest, did my cerb cheque come today?

It was organized by nurses, so maybe ask them why they picked that spot.

[cr125]

The Hospital is the wrong place to do your belly-aching.
Do these people not have a life? Maybe they should volunteer to help at the Hospital? instead of;
"Honey, I'm home from the *bleep* fest, did my cerb cheque come today?

It was organized by nurses, so maybe ask them why they picked that spot.

I did not ask who organized the protest, or why they picked that spot. I said it was the wrong spot for this bs

[Piecemaker]

When one is ill, they do not want to hear a cacophony of shouting and honking horns.
When one is working and needing to focus on one's patients, they do not want to hear shouting and honking horns.

Honking horns can mean support. They can also mean "get the hell out of my way."
They can also mean a parade of a few vehicles that keep circling the block.
And yes, they can mean that there is support for doing away with the requirement of vaccination proof to access certain places and events.

Bang pots and pans. Patients love pots and pans. They hate horns honking, but they love pots and pans.

Additionally, they love pepper, but they hate cinnamon.

People that bang pots and pans do so outside their own homes for a minute or less, they do not travel to the hospital to bang pots and pans.

[Terris]

To my knowledge, most of these people are not anti-vaxxers, per say. What they are protesting is MANDATORY vaccinations, and vaccination "passports". And I would agree with them on that. I am fully vaccinated, but it was MY CHOICE, as it should be everyone else's.
Secondly, the last information I read about the KGH, was that they were at 60% (??) capacity, as of a couple of days ago. How is 60% (if true) "overwhelming"? These people, i.e. doctors and nurses, chose their careers on their own, and trained all their lives for such and much worse situations. So, I would like to see them stop whining and do their jobs, as the rest of us do.

Anti vaxxers, and those who are vaxxed yet are also anti mandates and passports are quite different. Most clear thinkers, vaxxed or not, can discern the difference between free choice and coerced compliance.

Using the covid logic of the un-informed consenters, we should all be regularly getting chemotherapy to prevent getting cancer. All paid for, of course, with your tax dollars.

If legitimate health care "professionals" were truly all about protecting the public from a disease that is 99.9% survivable; why not then apply the same total lockdown of society, complete with loss of freedoms and rights through mandates and passports, because so many people are currently dying of a disease that is usually only 50% survivable and has already killed 100's of millions of people?

It should also then, be mandated, that everyone must wear helmets while driving, not just motorcyclists.

Using covid logic, all orchardists and farm workers and others in construction who are regularly exposed to hazardous chemicals should be wearing hazmat suits while on the job. All paid for by your tax dollars of course.

Using covid logic, everyone who engages in outdoor activities on crown lands should be mandated to have insurance paid for by your tax dollars, in case you need to be rescued or break your leg while skiing.

See where I'm going here??

At what point do we all collectively decide to NOT deplete the public coffers in order to make a few vested, fear mongering 1%'er vaccine conglomerates even wealthier, to the point that the accumulated public debts are unpayable and we're all mandated to live under a corporate totalitarianism.

Where does the line finish being erased and redrawn before people stop to think about it, and perhaps, after some thought and research, come to an opposing viewpoint, and then use their right to question these mandates, and openly express their opinions in a manner that can't simply be drowned out by those loudly splashing around in the sea of compliance?

Last year's tin hat conspiracies are now today's reality. Thin edges of wedges are now being thrown down everywhere in our society, and people best pay attention to who's hitting them with a hammer...

Dig a little deeper into this and you'll begin to see that this covid nonsense is merely a smokescreen; a method of sampling and gauging the publics pliability in the face having reality rearranged before their eyes.

According to all previously known pre-covid science, once you've contracted a virus and your immune system has developed the anti bodies enabling you to survive, you are naturally protected from that virus for life. How does it make sense to destroy your own natural immunity system by willingly allowing yourself get injected with unknown, untested dielectric nano particle toxins?

That, to me, is a sign of a weakened survival instinct. You've taken a chance of permanently damaging your natural immune system for an untested bio tagging vaccine so that you go to a restaurant while your unvaxxed friends and family wait outside, all the while insisting that they're the crazy ones?

Hmmm...

It will be years before the definitive evidence and truth about covid can be tested and known.

Mandates and passports? How quaintly 1930's and 1940's Germany is that??

https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/th ... +the+wedge

Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap...

[artistwithaflare]

Demonstration guru's could have picked a better place besides a Hospital.
They all looked like uncaring fools with no consideration for loved one's or life.
I hope none of them end up in the Emergency!
or, die of covid exposure.

[foenix]

The Hospital is the wrong place to do your belly-aching.
Do these people not have a life? Maybe they should volunteer to help at the Hospital? instead of;
"Honey, I'm home from the *bleep* fest, did my cerb cheque come today?

It was organized by nurses, so maybe ask them why they picked that spot.

They were organized by anti-vax, ant-mask and anti-establishment type nurses that have been reprimanded at their own hospitals so it's not a big stretch to see why they picked hospitals as to their messaging.

[acidrain]

The logic from these protesters is to gather 1,000+ unvaxed and unmasked people. By doing so it makes it more likely many will contract Covid and flood KGH with more patients overburdening the system. Which in turn gives the passport movement more credibility. The whole idea behind the passports (whether you agree or not) is to alleviate the burden on our health care system. These people aren't exactly promoting any reasonable solution in fact they are showing how to exacerbate the problem. These health care providers are already burnt out. I'm sure after this fiasco they will be less empathetic when they see some of the same faces in the Co-vid ward a few weeks from now. Not sure how this is a win for anyone.

Couple of false statements you made.
1) a lot of those people at the protest are vaccinated, The protest isn't against the vaccine, only the vaccine passport.
2) The idea behind the passport is not to alleviate the health care system but to restrict the movements of those that chose not to vaccinate. The vaccine itself is supposed to alleviate the burden on the health care system because it does not prevent you from getting covid nor does it prevent you from spreading it. It only lessens the symptoms and helps reduce ICU admissions.

I agree the protests in front of hospitals were not the right move. Should have been in front of the MLA office or city hall or in a park. However, it is their right to protest wherever peacefully.

We allow Vegan protests outside of Ribfest, We allow BLM protests to block traffic and destroy public property. We allow First Nation protests/blockades against legal and permitted logging. So why the outrage over this one? At least it was peaceful and no property was destroyed.

I find really funny how before COVID hit anti-vaxxers were just laughed at and not taken seriously because they think the old school vaccines that have eradicated multiple actual deadly diseases would give them autism. But still, BC did not enforce a vaccine passport nor made any vaccine mandatory to enjoy certain activities. Most people didn't even care if there were among non-vaccinated people. Now a bad flu bug comes around and because of global government fear-mongering, everyone thinks Covid is the new black plague and is so afraid of it they are willing to turn on their neighbours, friends and family.

Most in attendance were not there because of the vaccine passport mandate. Did you see the signs that said "Hero to Zero"? These protesters were blocking entrances, harassing people wearing masks by berating their choice and trying to rip them off and disrupting operations at a hospital. There is an irony about these protesters carrying on about government mandates when many are receiving government unemployment benefits. Very few working class people have the luxury of taking a Wednesday afternoon off to go protest. I guess the protesters think the government is okay as long as they pay for them to stay at home and go protesting.

The idea about the passport is to attempt to minimize the community spread of Co-vid whether you agree or not. You even admitted the vaccine helps to reduce ICU admissions and if more people got the vaccine it would reduce that load. These protesters obviously have not thought critically about how they intend on dealing with the influx of patients most of which are unvaccinated. Their solution is what exactly? Their logic is to gather over a thousand people together without masks and ignore the consequences of their super spreader event. This event is completely irresponsible during a pandemic and it goes to show how little regard they have for the well being of others including health care staff.

The radical right is out of control and totally hypocritical. These "my body, my choice" protesters don't see the irony of many of them who rally against abortion rights. They just care about their own medical choices. The right preaches personal responsibility but all of us will have to pay for their socialized healthcare. If they believed in their own politics they would offer to pay a specialized tax for an increase in health care services they will burden the system with. Where exactly is the money and resources going to come from if hospitals continue to get overrun with unvaxxed patients? I guess those who were actually working on Wednesday can look forward to an increase in taxes to pay for these people's "choices".

[[3t3ndr3]

Well to all those folks protesting and think they know better than all the medical professionals, think that their medical advice found on the internet makes them more qualified than doctors, scientists and virus specialists....thanks to your ignorance and ME attitude you made our area #1 for the most COVID cases.

Central Okanagan: high of 922, Aug. 8-14; most recently 511
Vernon: previous high of 133, Aug. 15-21; most recently 263
Armstrong/Spallumcheen: previous high of 16, Aug. 15-21; most recently 24
Enderby: high of 28, Aug. 15-21; most recently 19
Salmon Arm: previous high of 79, Aug. 15-21; most recently 93
Kamloops: previous high of 193, Aug. 15-21; most recently 249
Penticton: previous high of 50, Nov. 29-Dec. 5; most recently 69
Keremeos: high of 15, Aug. 15-21; most recently 10
Southern Okanagan: high of 54, Dec. 6-12; most recently 53
Summerland: high of 12, April 4-10; most recently 11
Revelstoke: high of 37, Dec. 27-Jan. 2; most recently 3
Golden: previous high of 23, Aug. 15-21: most recently 38
Arrow Lakes: high of 11, Aug. 1-7 ; most recently 2
Kootenay Lake: previous high of 3, July 18-24; most recently 5
Windermere: high of 34, April 4-10; most recently 10
Kimberley: previous high of 17, April 11-17; most recently 18
Cranbrook: previous high of 56, Aug. 15-21; most recently 69
Fernie: high of 44, Jan. 17-23; most recently 42
Creston: high of 56, Aug. 15-21; most recently 53
Nelson: high of 153, Aug. 15-21; most recently 71
Castlegar: high of 34, Aug. 8-14; most recently 27
Trail: previous high of 36, Aug. 15-21; most recently 49
Grand Forks: previous high of 21, July 4-10; most recently 39
Kettle Valley: previous high of 14, Dec. 13-19; most recently 18
Princeton: high of 4, Aug. 15-21; most recently 4
Merritt: high of 30, Jan. 31-Feb. 6; most recently 8
South Cariboo: high of 6, Aug. 8-14; most recently 5
Lillooet: high of 8, Dec. 27-Jan. 2; most recently 3
Cariboo/Chilcotin: high of 140, Jan. 10-16; most recently 66
100 Mile: high of 29, Jan. 3-9; most recently 11
North Thompson: high of 4, Jan, 3-9; most recently 3

THANKS to YOU those who do everything not to get sick and having to say goodbye to loved ones who died waiting to get into a hospital for treatment or died because of catching COVID from unvaccinated unmasked spreaders. "people" like you that think your rights are being violated contribute to the spread and death. Thanks for being bullies to the great first responders, doctor and nurses who unfortunately will have to save your life when you go to the hospital or call 911. Thanks for having super spreader events that cause more stupidity and grief for those who want to live and give a damn about others. Welcome to USA NORTH - ignorance is everywhere.