Police arrest 3 in Rail Trail beating

[common_sense_guy]

Obviously not home free. Just not jail for nonviolent. Does a person really have to spell everything out for people I guess so. How many people do you think go to jail for breaking into a house as it is right now.

Yes, perhaps spell it out. Ah, for one thing you were talking about NON-VIOLENT, burglary (breaking into a house) is a non-violent crime. If a criminal breaks into an occupied home that is robbery not burglary.

The classification of incarceration for these two is PRE-TRIAL CUSTODY. So we're not talking about "people who do <offense> don't go to jail". These guys are innocent until proven guilty, but there is a requirement that they show up for court appearances. Every time they've been let out they disappear. In addition they crime they committed is a violent crime (robbery).

This isn't really a good place to discuss "non-violent" offenders, since these two were anything but non-violent, but keeping with the concept of no jail for non-violent offenders. What do you propose ??????

Really got to have it spelled out for you?. Okay so non-violent crimes could be solved by house arrest. Big fines. I could go on and on but it should be pretty obvious what types of punishment are already in place. It's sad I have to spell it out for you. Like seriously are you being obtuse on purpose or were you really oblivious to the different types of punishment already available.
Do you like the idea that violent criminals are being let out early or not being held pretrial because we don't have enough room. That's the problem I'm trying to solve.

[my5cents]

Really got to have it spelled out for you?. Okay so non-violent crimes could be solved by house arrest. Big fines. I could go on and on but it should be pretty obvious what types of punishment are already in place. It's sad I have to spell it out for you. Like seriously are you being obtuse on purpose or were you really oblivious to the different types of punishment already available.
Do you like the idea that violent criminals are being let out early or not being held pretrial because we don't have enough room. That's the problem I'm trying to solve.

So, you want to reverse the Canadian concept that wealth shouldn't be a factor in justice ?

For example the format in Canada for releasing persons charged with a crime (before trial) was changed decades ago so as to not be weighted on ability to pay. The US has a system where an accused in most states must post a financial bond. That's why you hear about "Bail Bond" companies, all over the states.

In the US, some, even when charged with a minor offense are kept in custody for lengthy periods because of an inability to pay their bond. We hear frequently of people who have been held for an inordinate time, unable to post bond, then plead guilty to the offense, not because they were guilty but because they would be released for "time served", verses remaining in custody further and risk the possibility of a conviction and more time in custody.

The wealthy of course, in the US bond themselves out.

This solution of large fines ? Do you think the majority of criminals are in a financial position to pay fines ? They do crime because it's a hobby ? Or,, is it a case of, I defraud an elderly person of many thousand dollars, so I pay my ill-gotten gains back to the court for my freedom ?

This person who has decided a life of crime is better than an education and a job,,, they are going to obtain the money to pay these fines ????

Drug trafficking is non-violent. The drug trade is more than flush with money, so convicted of drug importation, drug conspiracy etc, pay a fine ? Back out on the street, or "house arrest" (isn't that what you do to misbehaving children, ground them ?)

You see that as a deterrent, do you ?

In BC we are already going to see decriminalization of small quantities of illicit drugs in a few days.

Have you met many criminals ?

[the truth]

Really got to have it spelled out for you?. Okay so non-violent crimes could be solved by house arrest. Big fines. I could go on and on but it should be pretty obvious what types of punishment are already in place. It's sad I have to spell it out for you. Like seriously are you being obtuse on purpose or were you really oblivious to the different types of punishment already available.
Do you like the idea that violent criminals are being let out early or not being held pretrial because we don't have enough room. That's the problem I'm trying to solve.

So, you want to reverse the Canadian concept that wealth shouldn't be a factor in justice ?

For example the format in Canada for releasing persons charged with a crime (before trial) was changed decades ago so as to not be weighted on ability to pay. The US has a system where an accused in most states must post a financial bond. That's why you hear about "Bail Bond" companies, all over the states.

In the US, some, even when charged with a minor offense are kept in custody for lengthy periods because of an inability to pay their bond. We hear frequently of people who have been held for an inordinate time, unable to post bond, then plead guilty to the offense, not because they were guilty but because they would be released for "time served", verses remaining in custody further and risk the possibility of a conviction and more time in custody.

The wealthy of course, in the US bond themselves out.

This solution of large fines ? Do you think the majority of criminals are in a financial position to pay fines ? They do crime because it's a hobby ? Or,, is it a case of, I defraud an elderly person of many thousand dollars, so I pay my ill-gotten gains back to the court for my freedom ?

This person who has decided a life of crime is better than an education and a job,,, they are going to obtain the money to pay these fines ????

Drug trafficking is non-violent. The drug trade is more than flush with money, so convicted of drug importation, drug conspiracy etc, pay a fine ? Back out on the street, or "house arrest" (isn't that what you do to misbehaving children, ground them ?)

You see that as a deterrent, do you ?

In BC we are already going to see decriminalization of small quantities of illicit drugs in a few days.

Have you met many criminals ?

your words- drug trafficking is non violent- i think not, drugs on the streets kills people so imo drug trafficking is violent in its own way

[Ken7]

Have to ask, what is the deterrent then?

Break into someone's home while they are away. Not violent, would you want them to be home free, no pun intended to come back once you have bought new stereo equipment after the hassles with your insurance?

Obviously not home free. Just not jail for nonviolent. Does a person really have to spell everything out for people I guess so. How many people do you think go to jail for breaking into a house as it is right now.

WHY do people have to be like that?

I used to put *bleep* in jail. Break and enter to a residence is personal, it is violating and in my thoughts more serious than a business. How does one sleep at night after their home was broken into, yes with one eye open. Have you ever been a victim of a residential break in? Speak to people who have it is more serious then you might think. My comment was to make some think, why a crime should be treated as such.


Too many Liberal minded people in my thought. If these individuals were penalized for the crime possibly they would get off the drugs. There are very few professional criminals who pay their share of taxes.

[the truth]

yet a junkie beats on another junkie and goes to jail in two days -safe bet he just needed a warm jail cell for the winterhttps://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/409753/Ke ... n-two-days
but if junkies beats on anyone else good luck

[Lynn K]

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