Four dead in a bus crash on Connector Hwy 97

[69cutlass]

AND what force ia felt when the motion comes to an abrupt stop?

It's not the fall that gets you. It's the sudden stop at the end

[alanjh595]

AND what force ia felt when the motion comes to an abrupt stop?

It's not the fall that gets you. It's the sudden stop at the end

Exactly....the same principle.

[Piecemaker]

I keep my seatbelt on while on a plane - the Bus was equipped with belts that might have prevented some of the deaths /injuries.
Thank goodness there were local residents and other vehicles on the road to help the victims.

Reports are that the majority of passengers were not wearing seatbelts. Like you, I wear mine on flights and certainly would have on a bus. It is fortunate that a semi, or even a regular vehicle, wasn't coming along just then that ran into the overturned bus. Yes, very fortunate that private vehicles were able to stop and render assistance.

[Fancy]

I posted earlier the one young man that was saved by wearing his seatbelt. I can’t imagine the hindsight people are thinking of now - the what ifs.

[nucksRnum1]

*removed*

[Saviour]

I posted earlier the one young man that was saved by wearing his seatbelt. I can’t imagine the hindsight people are thinking of now - the what ifs.

I agree, they're there for a reason.

[Fancy]

Everyone needs to have one buckled up on a plane (mentioned today in a newscast) and hopefully that's the next step in having the bus driver announce buckle up. Just like a car it's the law.

[Saviour]

Everyone needs to have one buckled up on a plane (mentioned today in a newscast) and hopefully that's the next step in having the bus driver announce buckle up. Just like a car it's the law.

Thats all you can do, make an announcement, the driver can't enforce it. An aircraft has pilots who fly the plane and cabin crew that enforce the rules in the cabin and failure to abide by cabin crew's instructions can lead to a federal offence where as ignoring a bus drivers instructions has no legal repercussions.

Pretrip inspection that if done by the book would take 2 hours.

The pre-trip for a coach should only take about 15-20 minutes if done by the book, including air brakes. 30 minutes if you're very slow.

[Bsuds]

AND what force ia felt when the motion comes to an abrupt stop?

Usually a forceful Bowel movement.

[thesportinglife]

That's not the way it came across.

Your comments are nothing but empty assumptions that hold absolutely no merit what-so-ever.

In regards to your comment in writing the PTB to investigate Ebus, the fact that they have had no major incidents in the past shows that their operating certificate is in good standing. Add to that, online reviews have shown nothing but praise for the company and the drivers.

What about your assumption ? How do you know that Ebus has had no previous complaints from its customers or to the PTB, which are typically never released to the public.

Second, you are no "saviour," but maybe, an a hole, like the Ebus driver who yelled and shouted at his passengers ?

Stop defending Ebus, when you know that I am in the right ! When an Ebus transit operator is seen yelling and screaming at his passengers, THAT crosses the line of professionalism and raises concerns about the fitness of the driver to drive for a living.

[Urban Cowboy]

[Saviour]

What about your assumption ?

I've made no assumptions.

How do you know that Ebus has had no previous complaints from its customers or to the PTB, which are typically never released to the public.

Read my post again, very carefully. I said they've had no major previous incidents that would question their operating certificate and have had mostly (that being the key word) positive online reviews - I made no mention of complaints to the PTB or that they haven't received any complaints at all.

Second, you are no "saviour," but maybe, an a hole, like the Ebus driver who yelled and shouted at his passengers ?

That may be, but I'm not the one who finds it necessary to call a driver "fat" and "overweight" as if it had any relevance to anything.

Stop defending Ebus,

I haven't defended anyone, I clarified facts.

when you know that I am in the right !

But you're not.

When an Ebus transit operator is seen yelling and screaming at his passengers, THAT crosses the line of professionalism and raises concerns about the fitness of the driver to drive for a living.

I don't disagree with you that yelling at passengers crosses the line of professionalism, but thats not what you said. You said:

I say that the speeding of the Ebus under dangerous winter road conditions, is consistent with one who also shouts and yells at his passengers.

If the transit operator is rude and is heard yelling at his passengers and for no good reason, then, that translates into rudeness and taking unnecesary chances on the road, such as speeding

Those are absolutes and not simply "raising concerns". How a driver interacts with the passengers and how they drive are two very different aspects of the job. More importantly, assuming that Ebus drivers operate their coaches in a reckless manner because of how you supposedly saw a singular driver interact with passengers is the very definitions of painting with a very broad brush.

[Fancy]

Not sure if this was posted before but it does speak volumes when a passenger is telling a bus driver to slow down. Same company but previous accident.
https://globalnews.ca/news/9374653/b-c- ... ving-ebus/

[Saviour]

Not sure if this was posted before but it does speak volumes when a passenger is telling a bus driver to slow down. Same company but previous accident.
https://globalnews.ca/news/9374653/b-c- ... ving-ebus/

It has and as mentioned previously and also in the story, the bus was not operated by Ebus. Apparently, clarifying this point is nothing more than "semantics" despite the fact that any investigation and consequences would go against the subcontractor's operating certificate and not Ebus's.

[Fancy]

Okay I read back and saw the other news story now I wonder who is hiring the drivers.