ICBC debt more than what BC Libs claimed

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ICBC debt more than what BC Libs claimed

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The minister responsible for B.C’s cash-strapped public auto insurer is blaming the former BC Liberal government for a massive difference in the projections on losses at ICBC.
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GET RID OF IT!!!
NDP will raid that cookie jar soon enough, it's too much for any political party to resist.
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jimmy4321 wrote:GET RID OF IT!!!
NDP will raid that cookie jar soon enough, it's too much for any political party to resist.


You just don't get it, do you?.......THERE IS NO COOKIE JAR.
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jimmy4321 wrote:GET RID OF IT!!!
NDP will raid that cookie jar soon enough, it's too much for any political party to resist.


“But the previous government had taken $1.1 billion out of that fund over the previous six years, and so that money wasn’t earning investment income.”


Thats the Liberal government raiding the cookie jar thoroughly over the last six years. Doesnt look like theres anything left for the NDP to raid.
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Wasn't it the NDP that started ICBC during their one term in the 70s/80s? My dates may be off. The liberals have been trying to fix that ill conceived plan ever since.
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alanjh595 wrote:Wasn't it the NDP that started ICBC during their one term in the 70s/80s? My dates may be off. The liberals have been trying to fix that ill conceived plan ever since.


That has to be the most ill-informed comment I have ever read since I started reading these Castanet forums. I'm not even going to bother trying to set you straight. Just google ICBC history, okay?
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Cactusflower wrote:
alanjh595 wrote:Wasn't it the NDP that started ICBC during their one term in the 70s/80s? My dates may be off. The liberals have been trying to fix that ill conceived plan ever since.


That has to be the most ill-informed comment I have ever read since I started reading these Castanet forums. I'm not even going to bother trying to set you straight. Just google ICBC history, okay?[/quote

10-4 on that; amazingly uninformed statement [icon_lol2.gif]
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Since the days of Tommy Douglas, public auto insurance has been a hallmark policy of the New Democratic Party in Canada. Douglas created Canada's first public auto insurance corporation with Saskatchewan Government in Insurance in 1945. Manitoba Public Insurance was created by their NDP government in 1971, and the BC NDP government under Dave Barrett created ICBC in 1973.

In BC it did not take long for unions to try to certify the new government workers at BC's newest crown corporation. Local 378 worked for nearly a year for the right to represent the workforce at ICBC, withstanding pressure from many quarters to join forces with other much larger unions also vying for the loyalty of the workers.

The Labour Board-ordered certification vote took place on October 1, 1974, and on November 5, ICBC employees cast their votes to become members of Local 378.

During the early days of job action to get a first collective agreement, ICBC employees found they had no choice but to begin picketing.

On August 19, 1975, the striking workers were legislated back to work. The ordered arbitration eventually won the Local 378 members a 40% wage increase over two years, and a new 35-hour, 4-day work week.


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alanjh595 wrote:
Since the days of Tommy Douglas, public auto insurance has been a hallmark policy of the New Democratic Party in Canada. Douglas created Canada's first public auto insurance corporation with Saskatchewan Government in Insurance in 1945. Manitoba Public Insurance was created by their NDP government in 1971, and the BC NDP government under Dave Barrett created ICBC in 1973.

In BC it did not take long for unions to try to certify the new government workers at BC's newest crown corporation. Local 378 worked for nearly a year for the right to represent the workforce at ICBC, withstanding pressure from many quarters to join forces with other much larger unions also vying for the loyalty of the workers.

The Labour Board-ordered certification vote took place on October 1, 1974, and on November 5, ICBC employees cast their votes to become members of Local 378.

During the early days of job action to get a first collective agreement, ICBC employees found they had no choice but to begin picketing.

On August 19, 1975, the striking workers were legislated back to work. The ordered arbitration eventually won the Local 378 members a 40% wage increase over two years, and a new 35-hour, 4-day work week.


http://moveuptogether.ca/creation-icbc


What does an old press release from union professionals have to do with your original comment, "Wasn't it the NDP that started ICBC in the 70s/80s? My dates may be off. The liberals have been trying to fix that ill-conceived plan ever since."? Sometimes it's better to simply apologize for an uninformed comment and move on than to spend a whole night trying to justify it.
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Proves that ICBC was started by the NDP in the 70's. 1973 to be exact. Look it up for yourself and prove me wrong.
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alanjh595 wrote:Proves that ICBC was started by the NDP in the 70's. 1973 to be exact. Look it up for yourself and prove me wrong.
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Who said it wasn't started by the NDP? Of course it was, and it was a great Crown corporation until the BCLiberals got their greedy paws on it. Christy Clark really ramped up the thievery when she became Premier.

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Cactusflower wrote:That has to be the most ill-informed comment I have ever read since I started reading these Castanet forums. I'm not even going to bother trying to set you straight. Just google ICBC history, okay?

You obviously don't read your own posts them.
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Cactusflower wrote:
alanjh595 wrote:Proves that ICBC was started by the NDP in the 70's. 1973 to be exact. Look it up for yourself and prove me wrong.
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Who said it wasn't started by the NDP? Of course it was, and it was a great Crown corporation until the BCLiberals got their greedy paws on it. Christy Clark really ramped up the thievery when she became Premier.

Look it up for yourself and prove me wrong.


How about you prove yourself right? Just for a change?
Let's start with;
What year did Ms. Clark take power?
What year was it recognised that there were some improprieties that substantiate calling Ms. Clark a "thief"?
Why has it taken this long for these accusations to come to the surface?
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Cactusflower wrote:Sometimes it's better to simply apologize for an uninformed comment and move on than to spend a whole night trying to justify it.


What we have here is your classic Pot meet Kettle situation.
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So let's get this straight, someone makes a post, you claim it's wrong original poster proves their post wast right and you expect them to apologize. Damn you are full of yourself aren't you. It's my opinion you should be the one apologizing, but then your a left wing nut so I won't hold my breath
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