Kinder Morgan protestors

[erinmore3775]

https://www.castlegarnews.com/news/elizabeth-may-other-anti-pipeline-protesters-to-be-criminally-charged/

While I agree with the right to protest, I believe that it must be done legally. May and Stewart were well aware of the Court order that protesters of the KMPX must remain 5 meters away from the property. They chose not to follow those instructions. Therefore the result that the Crown will process criminal charges against them and other protesters arrested om March 23.

These charges, if they result in convictions, could result in serious problems for these two Parliamentarians. Convictions could serious hinder their ability to pursue their elected offices and their ability to travel. Whether or not I agree with their protest positions, I can not condone their leadership. They could have taken a protest leadership position from 5 meters outside the property. Instead they performed a publicity stunt, not expecting to be criminally charge. They and the other protesters deserve jail time and/or large fines and they definitely deserve a criminal record.

[Hurtlander]

Trudeau should have studied law at university rather than the arts. Perhaps he would have found out that the feds don't have total jurisdiction over B.C.'s economy and environment. They share that with two other governments, the provincial and local ones, and both of those oppose dilbit running across B.C. and into our coastal waters.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.4621027

Correct, the protection of the economy and the environmental is shared by every level of government. Every municipal government, regional district government and First Nations government along the entire length of the pipeline corridor from the BC-Alta border through to the lower end of the Fraser Valley are in support of the pipeline. So it’s completely disingenuous of you to boldly claim every level of government in BC is opposed to dilbit running across BC. However, keep in mind that pipeline right-of-ways and all navigable waterways are the exception, they are strictly 100% under Federal jurisdiction.

[Cactusflower]

https://www.castlegarnews.com/news/elizabeth-may-other-anti-pipeline-protesters-to-be-criminally-charged/

While I agree with the right to protest, I believe that it must be done legally. May and Stewart were well aware of the Court order that protesters of the KMPX must remain 5 meters away from the property. They chose not to follow those instructions. Therefore the result that the Crown will process criminal charges against them and other protesters arrested om March 23.

These charges, if they result in convictions, could result in serious problems for these two Parliamentarians. Convictions could serious hinder their ability to pursue their elected offices and their ability to travel. Whether or not I agree with their protest positions, I can not condone their leadership. They could have taken a protest leadership position from 5 meters outside the property. Instead they performed a publicity stunt, not expecting to be criminally charge. They and the other protesters deserve jail time and/or large fines and they definitely deserve a criminal record.

This court action is only going to make MPs May and Stewart even more popular in their constituencies.The prosecutors should be more interested in charging Trudeau with obstruction of justice, or whatever it's called when a politician oversteps his authority.

[Fancy]

This court action is only going to make MPs May and Stewart even more popular in their constituencies.

Not necessarily - there will be some who would agree they crossed the line.

[Cactusflower]

Trudeau should have studied law at university rather than the arts. Perhaps he would have found out that the feds don't have total jurisdiction over B.C.'s economy and environment. They share that with two other governments, the provincial and local ones, and both of those oppose dilbit running across B.C. and into our coastal waters.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.4621027

Correct, the protection of the economy and the environmental is shared by every level of government. Every municipal government, regional district government and First Nations government along the entire length of the pipeline corridor from the BC-Alta border through to the lower end of the Fraser Valley are in support of the pipeline. So it’s completely disingenuous of you to boldly claim every level of government in BC is opposed to dilbit running across BC. However, keep in mind that pipeline right-of-ways and all navigable waterways are the exception, they are strictly 100% under Federal jurisdiction.

What are your credentials? A law professor at UBC tends to disagree with you. Anyway, we have only one provincial government, and they are opposed to dilbit running across B.C., and the only local government affected by the KMX project is Burnaby. Haven't heard of them wanting to take that risk either.

[Drip_Torch]

Correct, the protection of the economy and the environmental is shared by every level of government. Every municipal government, regional district government and First Nations government along the entire length of the pipeline corridor from the BC-Alta border through to the lower end of the Fraser Valley are in support of the pipeline. So it’s completely disingenuous of you to boldly claim every level of government in BC is opposed to dilbit running across BC. However, keep in mind that pipeline right-of-ways and all navigable waterways are the exception, they are strictly 100% under Federal jurisdiction.

I don't expect this will change your opinion, but I do hope to start influencing your understanding of the facts.

[Cactusflower]

Correct, the protection of the economy and the environmental is shared by every level of government. Every municipal government, regional district government and First Nations government along the entire length of the pipeline corridor from the BC-Alta border through to the lower end of the Fraser Valley are in support of the pipeline. So it’s completely disingenuous of you to boldly claim every level of government in BC is opposed to dilbit running across BC. However, keep in mind that pipeline right-of-ways and all navigable waterways are the exception, they are strictly 100% under Federal jurisdiction.

I don't expect this will change your opinion, but I do hope to start influencing your understanding of the facts.

Excellent youtube video, but do you really expect the usual suspects to sit through 22 minutes of evidence? The attention spans of that group are about as long as a gnat's.

[Ka-El]

Excellent youtube video, but do you really expect the usual suspects to sit through 22 minutes of evidence? The attention spans of that group are about as long as a gnat's.

Can you summarize the key points? Or was 22 minutes too long for you to?

[Drip_Torch]

This route has not yet been approved. The City of Burnaby is determined to work with you, to ensure it never will be.

[Hurtlander]

Anyway, we have only one provincial government, and they are opposed to dilbit running across B.C., and the only local government affected by the KMX project is Burnaby. Haven't heard of them wanting to take that risk either.

Really ? Burnaby is the only local government affected by the KMX project ?. Perhaps you should explain why you think that the ten or so municipal governments, the regional district governments or any of the First Nations governments upstream from Burnaby that has the pipeline running through their governing boundaries aren’t actually local governments in your world. The municipality I live in would much rather have the pipeline twinned than to continue having train after train pulling tanker cars of bitumen through the middle of town,...my municipality is most certainly going to be affected by the final outcome of this.

[Drip_Torch]

First Nations and municipal leaders restated their opposition to the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain pipeline expansion project in no uncertain terms Monday in Vancouver.

"This is about recognizing the human rights of the Indigenous people of Canada," said Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs Vice-President Chief Bob Chamberlin.

...said Corrigan. "This has become ground zero for who is controlling our democratic institutions — is it the people of our country or is it the multinational corporations?"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.4611055

[hobbyguy]

First Nations and municipal leaders restated their opposition to the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain pipeline expansion project in no uncertain terms Monday in Vancouver.

"This is about recognizing the human rights of the Indigenous people of Canada," said Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs Vice-President Chief Bob Chamberlin.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.4611055

I watched some of the statements made. They want veto power, the SCOC has already ruled that they don't get to have veto power.

The government of Canada and the governments of provinces/municipalities can only grant rights as Canadians, as per our constitution. That means that no special interest has the right of veto.

[Cactusflower]

Anyway, we have only one provincial government, and they are opposed to dilbit running across B.C., and the only local government affected by the KMX project is Burnaby. Haven't heard of them wanting to take that risk either.

Really ? Burnaby is the only local government affected by the KMX project ?. Perhaps you should explain why you think that the ten or so municipal governments, the regional district governments or any of the First Nations governments upstream from Burnaby that has the pipeline running through their governing boundaries aren’t actually local governments in your world. The municipality I live in would much rather have the pipeline twinned than to continue having train after train pulling tanker cars of bitumen through the middle of town,...my municipality is most certainly going to be affected by the final outcome of this.

Okay, I'll rectify that statement: "Burnaby is the most adversely affected local government by the KMX. The TM tank farm is in Burnaby, the Westridge terminal is in Burnaby. The pipeline route runs right through conservation areas, parks, schoolgrounds, housing developments. Burnaby is one of the largest cities in B.C. and it's ludicrous to think any of the other municipalities along the route will be nearly as impacted by a spill as Burnaby."

Watch the youtube video that was provided by Drip_Torch, please.

[Ka-El]

B.C.'s Prosecution Service is considering criminal charges against dozens of people arrested for protesting Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain pipeline expansion.

But it will be up to a pair of newly appointed special prosecutors to determine whether charges will be laid against Green party Leader Elizabeth May and New Democrat MP Kennedy Stewart.

Arrest them all !!!

[Urban Cowboy]

B.C.'s Prosecution Service is considering criminal charges against dozens of people arrested for protesting Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain pipeline expansion.

But it will be up to a pair of newly appointed special prosecutors to determine whether charges will be laid against Green party Leader Elizabeth May and New Democrat MP Kennedy Stewart.

Arrest them all !!!

Exactly. Then charge them with contempt of court. Judges tend to frown upon that and rightly so.

Elected officials are supposed to uphold the laws of the land, not flaunt breaking them.