John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby LordEd » May 7th, 2018, 9:14 am

burnedatstake wrote:after what we have seen for the last 16 years - im not interested in the double standard that we see from too many here. i measure the ndp with the same brush that was acceptable for the liberals for 16 years.
In other words, you choose to have a double standard to what is unacceptable for a party to do. Liberal: bad. NDP: ok whatever.
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Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby kelownman » May 7th, 2018, 9:59 am

LordEd wrote:In other words, you choose to have a double standard to what is unacceptable for a party to do. Liberal: bad. NDP: ok whatever.


Isnt that what liberals do on this board, liberals good, ndp bad? why should ndp fan-people be any different! Of course 16 years of liberal mismanagement, malfeasance, and sticking it to the average BCer should be hard to ignore...but apparently if you a liberal sycophant, it isnt hard at all!

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Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby Veovis » May 7th, 2018, 10:07 am

kelownman wrote:Isnt that what liberals do on this board, liberals good, ndp bad? why should ndp fan-people be any different! Of course 16 years of liberal mismanagement, malfeasance, and sticking it to the average BCer should be hard to ignore...but apparently if you a liberal sycophant, it isnt hard at all!


Except it isn't what people on this board have done. Many were quite critical of the Liberals, however NONE of the NDP posters will fault the sleazy actions of the current administration. You can keep making the Lie that the Liberals weren't criticised, but it's just more lies.

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Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby Urban Cowboy » May 7th, 2018, 10:16 am

@ kelownman - Quite convenient of you to overlook the fact that unlike the NDP fan club, the Liberal supporters actively object to their party's wrong doings, in fact to the point of placing protest votes with the Greens thus allowing for this inept government to even exist.

By contrast what are you NDP sheep doing in regards to the malfeaseance and lies?

Nothing it would appear yet your shysters have only been in power months not 16 years.

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Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby hobbyguy » May 7th, 2018, 10:23 am

^^ making the assumption that those who oppose the BC NDP and especially their obstructionist LEAP faction support any other party is entirely incorrect.

For those of us who have been around long enough, you develop n understanding that 80-90% of pols have a sleazy component to them. None of them rise up through through the ranks to become candidates in the first place without sharp elbows and a penchant for twisting the truth.

So the choice becomes which set of pols is more competent, better able to deliver real results for the people in general. The BC NDP/LEAP are incompetent, and don't deliver real results for the bulk of the population. That is historical fact.

It was obvious that this go round they had no cohesive plan, just a grab bag of complaints, empty promises, and a big helping of disingenuous attack garbage. Dave Barrett had a plan. Mike Harcourt had a plan. This lot aren't even capable of coming up with a plan - which is not surprising as the LEAPers are incapable of planning.

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Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby Urbane » May 7th, 2018, 10:29 am

    kelownman wrote:Isnt that what liberals do on this board, liberals good, ndp bad? why should ndp fan-people be any different! Of course 16 years of liberal mismanagement, malfeasance, and sticking it to the average BCer should be hard to ignore...but apparently if you a liberal sycophant, it isnt hard at all!

Ditto to what Veovis, Hobbyguy, and Urban Cowboy have said and I would add this: Yes, those of us who voted Liberal called the Liberals out for their flaws. We also recognized that what you call "mismanagement" led to the strongest economy in Canada. Even Carole James has been crowing about the Liberal economy, and let's see if the NDP can maintain that strong economy. With the decisions that they've been making I'd say that's very doubtful.
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Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby seewood » May 7th, 2018, 11:13 am

Urbane wrote:Even Carole James has been crowing about the Liberal economy, and let's see if the NDP can maintain that strong economy. With the decisions that they've been making I'd say that's very doubtful.


With the endless new and increasing taxes the NDG have been dreaming up, growing the economy from an increase in business growth is not in the books. The NDG are just too stupid so they tax and spend until they get punted and the Liberals have to get the province back on track again.
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Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby The Green Barbarian » May 7th, 2018, 11:45 am

kelownman wrote:
Isnt that what liberals do on this board, liberals good, ndp bad?


More like - BC NDP just are plain awful, and here are all the myriad reasons why. The Liberals - not great, but not as bad. What everyone should want is a third viable option. And it starts with punting the morally bankrupt NDP to the curb, permanently. They have proven over and over again that they can't govern. It's time for them to go.

why should ndp fan-people be any different!


Because the NDP sucks. This isn't rocket science.

Of course 16 years of liberal mismanagement, malfeasance, and sticking it to the average BCer should be hard to ignore...but apparently if you a liberal sycophant, it isnt hard at all!


It's hard to stomach some of the things the Liberals did, especially the carbon tax, and allowing Vanderscam to take us back to the PST when we were so far ahead with the HST, but when you look at all the damage dumb-dumb unelected Horgan has done already, it's really no contest. What we really need is another option. Both the Liberals and the NDP need to go, and the NDP needs to go first.
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Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby alanjh595 » May 7th, 2018, 1:17 pm

Geeeez, and this just came up on Cnet.....

Trailer park being evicted
Colin Dacre - May 7, 2018 / 12:30 pm | Story: 225633

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Eviction notices have been handed out at the Delta Mobile Home Park on the south end of Penticton, just north of Barefoot Beach Resort.

The notices, dated April 30, were distributed over the weekend and ask residents to vacate the park by October 1, 2018.

One resident tells Castanet they plan on appealing the eviction notices, but are not optimistic about the outcome. The notices do not contain any reasons for the evictions.

The mobile home park is located on Penticton Indian Band land and managed by Stanmar Property Services. Castanet is awaiting comment from Stanmar and the PIB family that owns the property.

Premier John Horgan was in Penticton last month to announce new protections for tenants being evicted from mobile home parks that are being developed.

Castanet will update as more information becomes available.


https://www.castanet.net/news/Penticton ... ng-evicted

The natives and the NDP government have just evicted a whole trailer park full of affordable housing. It's enough to make you go "hhhhmmmmmmmm", I wonder what they are are up to now?
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Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby seewood » May 7th, 2018, 2:32 pm

Sorry, rules we are used to are not in effect on band lands....might as well be a different country for many things we take for granted.
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Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby alanjh595 » May 9th, 2018, 10:38 am

NDP gets mixed reviews

A new poll from the Angus Reid Institute finds British Columbians feeling uneasy and anxious about the direction in which the province is headed under the NDP government.

However, John Horgan is enjoying the highest approval rating of all party leaders.

“It’s certainly a province that is, I would suggest, as divided as it was this time a year ago,” said Shachi Kurl, executive director of the Angus Reid Institute.

It’s been exactly one year since the historic 2017 British Columbia election threw the province into months of political uncertainty that eventually resulted in a rare minority government.


More here:
https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/225837 ... ed-reviews
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Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby Urbane » May 15th, 2018, 9:38 pm

You just can't make this stuff up!
VICTORIA — Several of Premier John Horgan’s top staff improperly deleted all of their sent emails for months, leaving confusion over publicly-accessible records during the busy first months of the new NDP government.

The mass deletion, which mirrors the records management controversies of the previous Liberal government, involved at least five officials in Horgan’s office: Kate Van Meer Mass, director of operations; Layne Clark, director of liaison and coordination; Suzanne Christensen, assistant deputy minister; Stephanie Papik, director in the deputy minister’s office; and Don Bain, special adviser to the premier.
http://vancouversun.com/news/politics/b ... 1526426928
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Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby The Green Barbarian » May 16th, 2018, 8:58 am

Urbane wrote:You just can't make this stuff up!
VICTORIA — Several of Premier John Horgan’s top staff improperly deleted all of their sent emails for months, leaving confusion over publicly-accessible records during the busy first months of the new NDP government.

The mass deletion, which mirrors the records management controversies of the previous Liberal government, involved at least five officials in Horgan’s office: Kate Van Meer Mass, director of operations; Layne Clark, director of liaison and coordination; Suzanne Christensen, assistant deputy minister; Stephanie Papik, director in the deputy minister’s office; and Don Bain, special adviser to the premier.
http://vancouversun.com/news/politics/b ... 1526426928


And of course, all we'll hear from the formerly outraged NDP zombies here is crickets, as this is totally ok when the NDP do it, and mass treason if its Liberals doing it.

Get both parties out. We need a third option. The NDP are a steaming pile of dog turds, and the Liberals aren't much better.
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Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby Queen K » May 16th, 2018, 9:09 am

:132: I know right. That's why when someone accuses me of having Horgan as my BFF I have to :1422:

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Re: John Horgan's NDP are falling in the polls.

Postby Merry » May 16th, 2018, 9:17 am

The Green Barbarian wrote: What we really need is another option. Both the Liberals and the NDP need to go

I think this is something that almost ALL of us can agree on. But what's the alternative? Queenie's right when she says voting for the Conservatives is a wasted vote.
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