Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby rustled » Jun 3rd, 2019, 10:24 am

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Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby LANDM » Jun 3rd, 2019, 11:42 am

Keep blushing.....I think it was great too!
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Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby George+ » Jun 3rd, 2019, 11:49 am

Plecas is doing his job.
He does have complete oversight of the legislature.

Obviously he did not agree with McLachlan's narrow interpretation.
And neither does Horgan.

The Lieberals are grasping at pre election straws.

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Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby George+ » Jun 3rd, 2019, 11:59 am

Just wonderin what part of Chief Executive Officer is not understood?....

http://www.revparl.ca/english/issue.asp ... 96&art=398

Probably Plecas knows his role very well.

Could be a wild Summer!?
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Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby Gone_Fishin » Jun 7th, 2019, 5:44 am

Oh yes, the NDP, that self-professed protector of employee rights. Until it comes to the NDP's power and political points, then bullying and harassment are perfectly acceptable.


Vaughn Palmer: 'Illogical' suicide pact allegation lies behind B.C. legislature resignations

VICTORIA — On the final day of the spring legislature session, Premier John Horgan paid tribute to Randy Ennis, who was retiring early from the upper echelons of the security staff.

It’s standard procedure for the premier to thank a departing public servant. Ennis had long served as deputy sergeant-at-arms and lately as acting sergeant-at-arms, with Gary Lenz placed on suspension.

But for Horgan, this one was personal because Ennis was a friend.

“Randy and I first met at the hockey rink over a cup of Tim Horton’s,” the premier told the house. “Our boys played hockey together, so we spent a lot of time complaining about the Canucks. We spent a lot of time talking about how we could make the world a better place.

“Randy is an outstanding individual,” Horgan continued. “I’m going to miss him terribly.”

There followed a display of applause from all sides of the house, albeit tinged with regret among those in the know.

Horgan claimed not to know why Ennis, who just turned 59, was leaving early. But around the legislature, it was an open secret that Ennis was fed up with the regime of Speaker Darryl Plecas and his chief of staff, Alan Mullen.

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Ennis had good reason to be incensed. Plecas had accused him of being party to a suicide pact involving an ailing member of the security staff.

She speculated, and not in a flattering way, why Plecas had gone as far as he did.

“The Speaker was deeply distrustful of Mr. Lenz, which may explain how he transformed fragments of an exploratory proposal from Mr. Lenz and Mr. Ennis into a bizarre go-forward plan involving (the staffer) committing suicide.”

She then cleared Lenz of the allegation of misconduct. She also cleared him of all the other Plecas accusations against him.

Lenz remains on suspension, pending the outcome of a police investigation.

So, Ennis was collateral damage to one of the more reckless and unproven allegations from Plecas.

Rough treatment for someone who deserved much better. Before coming to work at the legislature, Ennis served as a member of the Canadian Airborne Regiment, seeing duty as a peacekeeper in Bosnia, Cyprus and Haiti, and earning the military Order of Merit.

The supposed target of the non-existent suicide pact was collateral damage as well. He retired from his post on the security staff at the same time as Ennis.

Not that Plecas could be bothered to express regret over the damage done to reputations. Instead he’s been citing the shortcomings in the McLachlin report in public and bad mouthing it privately.

As for the premier, he could deliver a more sincere tribute to his departed friend by recognizing where Plecas has gone too far and by attempting to curb his excesses.


https://vancouversun.com/opinion/column ... signations
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Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby burnedatstake » Jun 7th, 2019, 6:48 am

Gone_Fishin wrote:Oh yes, the NDP, that self-professed protector of employee rights. Until it comes to the NDP's power and political points, then bullying and harassment are perfectly acceptable.


Vaughn Palmer: 'Illogical' suicide pact allegation lies behind B.C. legislature resignations

VICTORIA — On the final day of the spring legislature session, Premier John Horgan paid tribute to Randy Ennis, who was retiring early from the upper echelons of the security staff.

It’s standard procedure for the premier to thank a departing public servant. Ennis had long served as deputy sergeant-at-arms and lately as acting sergeant-at-arms, with Gary Lenz placed on suspension.

But for Horgan, this one was personal because Ennis was a friend.

“Randy and I first met at the hockey rink over a cup of Tim Horton’s,” the premier told the house. “Our boys played hockey together, so we spent a lot of time complaining about the Canucks. We spent a lot of time talking about how we could make the world a better place.

“Randy is an outstanding individual,” Horgan continued. “I’m going to miss him terribly.”

There followed a display of applause from all sides of the house, albeit tinged with regret among those in the know.

Horgan claimed not to know why Ennis, who just turned 59, was leaving early. But around the legislature, it was an open secret that Ennis was fed up with the regime of Speaker Darryl Plecas and his chief of staff, Alan Mullen.

snip

Ennis had good reason to be incensed. Plecas had accused him of being party to a suicide pact involving an ailing member of the security staff.

She speculated, and not in a flattering way, why Plecas had gone as far as he did.

“The Speaker was deeply distrustful of Mr. Lenz, which may explain how he transformed fragments of an exploratory proposal from Mr. Lenz and Mr. Ennis into a bizarre go-forward plan involving (the staffer) committing suicide.”

She then cleared Lenz of the allegation of misconduct. She also cleared him of all the other Plecas accusations against him.

Lenz remains on suspension, pending the outcome of a police investigation.

So, Ennis was collateral damage to one of the more reckless and unproven allegations from Plecas.

Rough treatment for someone who deserved much better. Before coming to work at the legislature, Ennis served as a member of the Canadian Airborne Regiment, seeing duty as a peacekeeper in Bosnia, Cyprus and Haiti, and earning the military Order of Merit.

The supposed target of the non-existent suicide pact was collateral damage as well. He retired from his post on the security staff at the same time as Ennis.

Not that Plecas could be bothered to express regret over the damage done to reputations. Instead he’s been citing the shortcomings in the McLachlin report in public and bad mouthing it privately.

As for the premier, he could deliver a more sincere tribute to his departed friend by recognizing where Plecas has gone too far and by attempting to curb his excesses.


https://vancouversun.com/opinion/column ... signations


i dont know why the liberal supporters are like a dog with a bone in regards to this housecleaning. everyone knows it needed to be done. and now there is spin and innuendo about suicide pacts and collateral damage. its like jan in the brady bunch - only she is saying "plecas - plecas - plecas". are liberal supporters jealous that they didnt do a better job on their watch? that they appear after the fact to be party to all kinds of questionable acts and dealings? do liberal supporters resent that the NDP is doing a better job for british columbians? because i see stuff like this drivel and thats how it appears. liberal party supporters with little man syndrome.
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Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby rustled » Jun 7th, 2019, 7:40 am

O. M. G.

That is beyond bizarre.

OK, this could explain why Horgan's leaving him in the seat: Ennis is a friend.

Maybe he's hoping for more revelations to show why Plecas must be replaced, so he can "respond to public pressure" rather than face accusations of getting rid of him for Ennis's sake?

Plecas should never have been left to his own devices. All parties should be held to account for him running amok, and they should work together to create a mechanism for replacing the speaker.

This may be the first time under modern legislative rules our speaker has gone this haywire, but there's no reason to assume it will never happen again.

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Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby rustled » Jun 7th, 2019, 8:11 am

Just watched the video with that story.
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/column ... signations
Wow, was he ever angry about other people making "absurd" and "ridiculous" accusations.

Looks like he was so disappointed when McLachlin didn't see things his way, now he's really struggling to contain his anger. Perhaps he feels betrayed. If so: irony.

He doesn't like being the target of "absurd" and ridiculous" accusations?

Karma.

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Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby Urbane » Jun 7th, 2019, 9:17 am

    rustled wrote:Just watched the video with that story.
    https://vancouversun.com/opinion/column ... signations
    Wow, was he ever angry about other people making "absurd" and "ridiculous" accusations.

    Looks like he was so disappointed when McLachlin didn't see things his way, now he's really struggling to contain his anger. Perhaps he feels betrayed. If so: irony.

    He doesn't like being the target of "absurd" and ridiculous" accusations?

    Karma.
Karma indeed. As he denies the obvious, i.e. that there are genuine concerns about his modus operandi, Plecas continues to focus his anger on "the leader of the opposition." Plecas lacks the qualities required of a speaker and he should have been shown the door long ago.

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Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby Urban Cowboy » Jun 7th, 2019, 11:24 am

One thing is for certain, Plecas won't have to be concerned about ever becoming too humble. [icon_lol2.gif]
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Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby burnedatstake » Jun 7th, 2019, 5:37 pm

i for one applaud plecas for his choice to be speaker. if for no other reason to see the looks on the arrogant faces of the bc liberal elite melt away into confusion and anger. that was a great day when he decided to become speaker. i also think he knew what he was going to do - in regards to this shake up from the beginning. and because he weakened the liberal vote count - it would be feasible to clean house. if a green became speaker (like the bc liberals wanted) and the votes were razor thin - i dont see this malfeasance come to light with a green speaker. thanks mr plecas for having the fortitude to strand against the waves - and screams of the conservative voters who are trying to make you the bad guy. keep on keeping on.
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Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby Country plough boy » Jun 8th, 2019, 7:04 am

Liberals and BCNDP are the same people. Same votes.
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Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby Urbane » Jul 13th, 2019, 11:13 am

Gary Lenz was cleared by Beverly McLachlin but she raised serious concerns about Plecas' conduct. So maybe someone should be launching an investigation of Plecas.

The latest (and yes, this really is a new investigation):

Another investigation into the suspended legislature sergeant at arms has been launched by Speaker Darryl Plecas.

Gary Lenz was cleared recently of allegations of misspending by an investigation by Beverley McLachlin, the former Supreme Court of Canada chief justice. But Plecas has commissioned a new investigation of Lenz, under the Police Act, based on a complaint filed by his chief of staff, Alan Mullen, says Mary Polak, the B.C. Liberal house leader.

“We don’t have a lot of details with respect to what he’s looking at,” Polak said Friday. “It appears as though he is reinvestigating allegations against Gary Lenz that were part of the McLachlin investigation.”

The B.C. NDP house leader, Mike Farnworth, would only confirm a probe is underway. But he would not say Friday who was the target of the investigation, calling it a human resources issue.


Full article: https://vancouversun.com/news/local-new ... nt-at-arms

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Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby southy » Jul 13th, 2019, 12:28 pm

Ahh yes … those two names reappear once again: Plecas and his sidekick Mullen. These two idiots have to go! I sure hope Karma arrives quickly and these two are booted as far away from this province as possible. I can visualize these two scheming over a good bottle of scotch (wonder who paid for it) and rubbing there hands together like little school boys thinking they have found their proof. I believe the only proof they will find is about 40% in the scotch they are drinking way to much of. My God these two make me sick.

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Re: Legislative clerk and Sergeant of Arms suspended

Postby Merry » Jul 13th, 2019, 5:56 pm

I have to wonder why Polak insists on continuing to make HR matters public? It couldn't possibly be for purely political reasons, could it? Surely a member of a committee that deals with such confidential matters wouldn't keep running to the Press just to try to make a political foe look bad, would she?

Oh, I guess she would!!!!!
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