Gas in BC going up

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby vinnied » Dec 30th, 2018, 8:56 pm

So, what ever happened to the solar farm the city was going to build out buy the airport?
User avatar
vinnied
Lord of the Board
 
Posts: 3020
Likes: 100 posts
Liked in: 1177 posts
Joined: Jul 22nd, 2007, 10:51 am
Location: The Greater Kelowna Regional District

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby vinnied » Dec 30th, 2018, 8:57 pm

flamingfingers wrote:When have car gas has ever gone down instead of UP?

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11- ... 03-eng.htm

according to your link it was in 2009
User avatar
vinnied
Lord of the Board
 
Posts: 3020
Likes: 100 posts
Liked in: 1177 posts
Joined: Jul 22nd, 2007, 10:51 am
Location: The Greater Kelowna Regional District

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby GordonH » Dec 30th, 2018, 9:00 pm

flamingfingers wrote:When have car gas has ever gone down instead of UP?

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11- ... 03-eng.htm


Most likely around the same time utility price went down instead of up.
When you have to start compromising yourself and your morals for the people around you, it’s probably time to change the people around you. John Spence
User avatar
GordonH
Buddha of the Board
 
Posts: 23522
Likes: 2857 posts
Liked in: 9085 posts
Joined: Oct 4th, 2008, 7:21 pm
Location: Second star to the right and straight on 'til morning

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby flamingfingers » Dec 30th, 2018, 9:04 pm

^^ And did they STAY down?

[icon_lol2.gif]
Overpopulation threatens all life on earth.
flamingfingers
Buddha of the Board
 
Posts: 21297
Likes: 6888 posts
Liked in: 6907 posts
Joined: Jul 9th, 2005, 8:56 am

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby GordonH » Dec 30th, 2018, 9:12 pm

flamingfingers wrote:^^ And did they STAY down?

[icon_lol2.gif]


My memory must be short, because I don't remember Fortis ever dropping electricity prices. But they do ask increases very regularly.
When you have to start compromising yourself and your morals for the people around you, it’s probably time to change the people around you. John Spence
User avatar
GordonH
Buddha of the Board
 
Posts: 23522
Likes: 2857 posts
Liked in: 9085 posts
Joined: Oct 4th, 2008, 7:21 pm
Location: Second star to the right and straight on 'til morning

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby hobbyguy » Dec 30th, 2018, 9:15 pm

^^ no Fortis increase this year. :D
Anyone but Scheer - career pols are know nothings.

the truth likes this post.
hobbyguy
Walks on Forum Water
 
Posts: 10414
Likes: 2707 posts
Liked in: 10915 posts
Joined: Jan 20th, 2011, 9:10 pm

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby GordonH » Dec 30th, 2018, 9:43 pm

hobbyguy wrote:no Fortis increase this year. :D


For first time in how many years, of course it did not decrease.
When you have to start compromising yourself and your morals for the people around you, it’s probably time to change the people around you. John Spence
User avatar
GordonH
Buddha of the Board
 
Posts: 23522
Likes: 2857 posts
Liked in: 9085 posts
Joined: Oct 4th, 2008, 7:21 pm
Location: Second star to the right and straight on 'til morning

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby spooker » Dec 31st, 2018, 11:10 am

dontrump wrote:LOL I would love to see u heat your home with solar in Prince George wheres its below freezing 6 months of the year


Actually, Prince George started running a trial to see how well the solar panels do up there ... and these are panels that are installed in the parking lot ... might not be the laugh you think it is ...


GordonH wrote:I can only imagine how customers of the service Skip the Dishes would like it if the delivery people only used bicycles, would = cold meals & long wait times.
But the delivery people are very fit. lol


Toronto enjoys quite a large group of food delivery by bike. They use insulated carriers and limit it by distance, taking into account that it should arrive hot and quick. Are we not as resourceful?

Smurf wrote:What did his system cost him?
Does he have a large battery bank for night?
Does he have electric heat?
Will he have it paid off by the time he has to start replacing it all?
It would be interesting to know the truth.


It cost $30k ... his ROI at the current level is a bit less than 20 years ... yes, electric baseboards ... yes to the battery bank ...

twobits wrote:Talk to us when you need to replace batteries for your free energy system and you are in a 12 month waiting list for knee surgery so you might be able to ride a bike again.
Talk to us again when you don't make selfish assumptions that anyone can afford a 5kw solar setup, everyone is capable because of weather or physical limitations to ride a bike, and even if they are capable......are they expected to ride 10, 20, 30 km's to get even basic groceries or meds?
You are seriously out of touch.


At what point did I say "everyone"? As for the rest of your comments, part of the reason to ride now is so that I can continue to ride as I get older ... you do know that riding a bike is a "low impact" activity? Selfish is taking up so much room on the road for one person, expecting "free" parking, and adding more particulates to the air we "all" have to breathe ... if you complain about gas prices then you can either play the victim with the "poor me" attitude and do nothing, or you can look at the choices you make and take some responsibility to lower your consumption ... I rode my bike to the bar last night to meet a friend, I live 4k away while he lives up Wilden and almost 10k away from it ... never expected him to ride his bike ... if you're painting me as selfish you might want to figure out where those assumptions come from ...
--
Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. -- Plato
User avatar
spooker
Übergod
 
Posts: 1715
Likes: 1304 posts
Liked in: 1001 posts
Joined: May 12th, 2009, 5:18 pm
Location: Kelowna, BC, CA

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby seewood » Dec 31st, 2018, 11:21 am

Drive to Penticton and fill/top up. .99 at Petro Can at the bottom of Westminster. Other stations 1.04.
I am not wealthy but I am rich
seewood
Übergod
 
Posts: 1664
Likes: 4295 posts
Liked in: 1654 posts
Joined: May 29th, 2013, 2:08 pm

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby Smurf » Dec 31st, 2018, 12:02 pm

spooker wrote:

Smurf wrote:
What did his system cost him?
Does he have a large battery bank for night?
Does he have electric heat?
Will he have it paid off by the time he has to start replacing it all?
It would be interesting to know the truth.



It cost $30k ... his ROI at the current level is a bit less than 20 years ... yes, electric baseboards ... yes to the battery bank ..

Thank you for replying.

Does he figure his panels and batteries will last that long without any more money put into them?

What will replacement and maintenance costs be? I know from experience batteries and their wiring take regular maintenance.

What kind of production does he expect to get out of his Panels in the last 5 to 10 years because it will be substantially less?

It is certainly not an investment I would make and definitely not on any of the rental properties I used to own.
Consider how hard it is to change yourself and you'll understand what little chance you have of changing others.

The happiest of people don't necessarily have the best of everything, they just make the most of everything that comes their way.
User avatar
Smurf
Guru
 
Posts: 9803
Likes: 16824 posts
Liked in: 6624 posts
Joined: Aug 12th, 2006, 8:55 am
Location: Okanagan BC

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby dontrump » Dec 31st, 2018, 2:02 pm

face it solar in most parts of Canada never see enough sunlight hours to make it feasible plus the cost is also prohibitive anyone that argues different is living in a bubble

If solar was doable and cheap we would see it in masses
dontrump
Grand Pooh-bah
 
Posts: 2258
Likes: 516 posts
Liked in: 739 posts
Joined: Feb 20th, 2016, 11:39 am

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby GordonH » Dec 31st, 2018, 2:25 pm

GordonH wrote:I can only imagine how customers of the service Skip the Dishes would like it if the delivery people only used bicycles, would = cold meals & long wait times.
But the delivery people are very fit. lol

spooker wrote:Toronto enjoys quite a large group of food delivery by bike. They use insulated carriers and limit it by distance, taking into account that it should arrive hot and quick. Are we not as resourceful?


You are seriously comparing central Okanagan to major metropolitan area like Toronto, were there are numbers of the same restaurants.

So since to entire central Okanagan is in play here and only 1 Cora restaurant, someone whats Skip the dishes to delivery a meal to Gorman Bros.
I don't care how nice those warm bag are that food would be ice cold by time its delivered by bike.
When you have to start compromising yourself and your morals for the people around you, it’s probably time to change the people around you. John Spence
User avatar
GordonH
Buddha of the Board
 
Posts: 23522
Likes: 2857 posts
Liked in: 9085 posts
Joined: Oct 4th, 2008, 7:21 pm
Location: Second star to the right and straight on 'til morning

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby the truth » Dec 31st, 2018, 5:06 pm

GordonH wrote:For those who don't actually need a big vehicle or truck, maybe it is time to get a more fuel efficient vehicle... just saying.


not in this town.........
"The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." -George Orwell
User avatar
the truth
Buddha of the Board
 
Posts: 18592
Likes: 13765 posts
Liked in: 7860 posts
Joined: May 16th, 2007, 9:24 pm

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby twobits » Dec 31st, 2018, 5:24 pm

Distances to required services, elevation geography of the Okanagan, and an understanding of local demographics tells me that spooky is being a bit kooky.
The only thing that will remove vehicles from my garage is a reliable fleet of self driving Uber vehicles.
Actually, I would still keep just one. Just for the joy it brings when the Muncie goes from 1st to 2nd and the puff of rubber smoke can be seen in the rear view mirror.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard.

2 people like this post.
twobits
Guru
 
Posts: 7223
Likes: 1092 posts
Liked in: 3855 posts
Joined: Nov 25th, 2010, 9:44 am
Location: GPS says Dead Elbow Utah. Think I'm lost

Re: Gas in BC going up

Postby spooker » Jan 1st, 2019, 11:28 am

GordonH wrote:I can only imagine how customers of the service Skip the Dishes would like it if the delivery people only used bicycles, would = cold meals & long wait times.
But the delivery people are very fit. lol

spooker wrote:Toronto enjoys quite a large group of food delivery by bike. They use insulated carriers and limit it by distance, taking into account that it should arrive hot and quick. Are we not as resourceful?


GordonH wrote:You are seriously comparing central Okanagan to major metropolitan area like Toronto, were there are numbers of the same restaurants.

So since to entire central Okanagan is in play here and only 1 Cora restaurant, someone whats Skip the dishes to delivery a meal to Gorman Bros.
I don't care how nice those warm bag are that food would be ice cold by time its delivered by bike.


Please note the bolded phrase from my previous post. It's the same reason that the CoK would like to help people change how they move for "trips under 5km", no one is saying that alternatives are the solution for "everyone" and "all situations" ... if someone wants Cora up in Glenrosa then the delivery will be by car, if the eater is ordering from the Marriott then they can deliver by bike ...

I'm trying to say that someone has already found a solution to part of the problem and is succeeding with it ... unfortunately our infatuation with using a car for everything can be found to be the root cause of the cost of living going up so dramatically ... needing more roads means higher taxes, needing more parking means more expensive housing, a carbon tax to offset burning the gasoline, ditching trains for transport (pointing the finger at the valley but also in general) ... indirect costs are still costing us though we love to blame it on someone else ...
--
Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. -- Plato
User avatar
spooker
Übergod
 
Posts: 1715
Likes: 1304 posts
Liked in: 1001 posts
Joined: May 12th, 2009, 5:18 pm
Location: Kelowna, BC, CA

PreviousNext

Return to B.C.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: CommonCrawl [Bot] and 2 guests