Vancouver City declares Climate Emergency

Re: Vancouver City declares Climate Emergency

Postby hobbyguy » Jan 19th, 2019, 5:02 pm

OKkayak wrote:
hobbyguy wrote:Ummm... I am speaking of true dedicated bus lanes, like the ones that were planned for the Massey bridge. 24/7 dedicated to buses only. And given that stupid bike lanes already trash up the parking, wouldn't dedicated bus lanes serve more people - and bring more business?? Yup.

Give me some examples. Which streets would you put a true dedicated bus lane on and which streets have the bike lanes removed an equivalent amount of business parking as a dedicated bus route would? Not disagreeing with you, I'm just trying to get a visualization.


Every street where they messed up traffic and parking for stupid bike lanes.
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Re: Vancouver City declares Climate Emergency

Postby hobbyguy » Jan 19th, 2019, 5:04 pm

GordonH wrote:Personally if choices are between these 2 types of vehicles.
1) EV
2) fuel cell

I would take #2 every time


And what good would it do? None. You would be using hydrogen processed from natural gas - much more efficient to just go LNG or CNG.
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Re: Vancouver City declares Climate Emergency

Postby twobits » Jan 19th, 2019, 6:39 pm

GordonH wrote:Personally if choices are between these 2 types of vehicles.
1) EV
2) fuel cell

I would take #2 every time


That would make sense only if the production of Hydrogen was cheaper than just combustion of natural gas to create energy for motion. Right now hydrogen fuel cells make as much sense as using diesel fuel to fire a boiler to create steam to run a steam driven electric generator to drive an electric motor that moves the vehicle.
The economics are just not there. Same as solar and wind and tidal......yada yada. Right now, the closest things to carbon neutral are nuclear and biomass. And biomass only if energy capture equals or exceeds biomass feedstock harvest and energy processing costs.
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Re: Vancouver City declares Climate Emergency

Postby GordonH » Jan 19th, 2019, 7:02 pm

GordonH wrote:Personally if choices are between these 2 types of vehicles.
1) EV
2) fuel cell

I would take #2 every time

twobits wrote:That would make sense only if the production of Hydrogen was cheaper than just combustion of natural gas to create energy for motion. Right now hydrogen fuel cells make as much sense as using diesel fuel to fire a boiler to create steam to run a steam driven electric generator to drive an electric motor that moves the vehicle.
The economics are just not there. Same as solar and wind and tidal......yada yada. Right now, the closest things to carbon neutral are nuclear and biomass. And biomass only if energy capture equals or exceeds biomass feedstock harvest and energy processing costs.


After market cng vehicles one losses trunk space. Unless it's ordered from the factory, which manufacturer does cng vehicles.
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Re: Vancouver City declares Climate Emergency

Postby GordonH » Jan 19th, 2019, 7:14 pm

lesliepaul wrote:9.6...……….PLEASE, to end this cities endless stupidity. It can only be saved by starting with a clean slate from the ground up.


That's a rather nasty thing to ask/wish on anyone, potential loss of life in the Vancouver & Fraser river delta area could be huge.

Added: thousands of years of silt will liquidify
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Re: Vancouver City declares Climate Emergency

Postby OKkayak » Jan 20th, 2019, 12:39 am

hobbyguy wrote:Every street where they messed up traffic and parking for stupid bike lanes.

Very few main arteries, where buses travel have dedicated bike lanes. Bus lanes only really work well for express buses like the B-Lines, 430, etc. Kinda hard to keep a bus moving for the regular routes when you have stops every 150m-200m but every bit helps here and there. Rush hour bus lanes works pretty good along Hastings/Broadway/Willingdon and others.
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Re: Vancouver City declares Climate Emergency

Postby csm » Jan 22nd, 2019, 9:35 am

Carrs Landing Viking wrote:What a lunatic lot. The nut bars get more loony every day.

Yes - unfortunately, those with special agenda's - no matter how whacko, are getting into politics and forcing the rest of us to abide by their BS - and you know what??

We are so stupid, we either keep voting for them, or we don't vote at all - but their fellow "chicken-Little / "tin-hats" do.

I am getting so fed up with being victimized by nut jobs federally and provincially and having my civil and constitutional rights being violated and degraded - because they know at $400/hr to hire a Lawyer to protect those rights ( and is not tax deductible) is totally unaffordable by most people, not to mention the Government can use MY tax money to fight me in court - and has unlimited funds.

What the hell is the matter with people - are we turning into a flock of sheep because we are too lazy to investigate a politician's agenda BEFORE we vote ( if we even bother to vote)?

As an example, I got laughed at during the last Federal Election warning people about Trudeau - now they are not laughing any longer, and I'm telling you - as long as we continue on the socialistic route of governance, federally, provincially and civically, we will be nothing more than cattle to be controlled and milked for everything we have ( which already started).
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Re: Vancouver City declares Climate Emergency

Postby csm » Jan 22nd, 2019, 9:43 am

Jlabute wrote:Disproportionately green, Vancouver city council unanimously vote to declare a climate emergency/crisis. The push began with Christine Boyle who is a Climate Justice Activist, & COP21 delegate, & graduate of Gr12.

Vancouver city is joining virtual-virtue signalling hands with a few other nutbar cities like LA and London to declare something that even the IPCC doesn't declare. In the wake of recent high winds and resulting damage, we have once again a weather event being blamed as catastrophic climate change by politicians, no science, or evidence involved. Rest assured, the financially starving city of Vancouver, with the highest debt in Canada, will find new revenue streams even if they are scams. To be seen.

On the good side, there is no such thing as bad weather anymore since strong winds are always 100% human generated. Sounds like bad science, science fiction, and conspiracies have found a home.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4856517/vancouver-city-council-votes-to-declare-climate-emergency/


The problem is, once nutbars are elected or appointed into a powerful bureaucratic position, they can do what ever they like during their tenure. The earth's climate will change with or without us here - and it has been doing just that for millions of years before we ever set foot on the planet.

I'm surprised they haven't found a way to tax earthquakes and meteorite strikes "yet".
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Re: Vancouver City declares Climate Emergency

Postby csm » Jan 22nd, 2019, 9:56 am

Jlabute wrote:^^^ So, what is the coastal emergency you know of? Are you speaking of sea level rise? If so, how do you know it is an emergency and what is Vancouver planning to do about it?


I think they call it "high tide" crisis, you know, the up and down movement of the ocean caused by that terrible cosmic rock - "the moon". Think of the terrible erosion it causes and the negative impact on shellfish!

I used to live on the Island for much of my life, and have seen dozens of storms over my lifetime that caused severe damage, trees falling onto cars, homes, sinking boats and even killing people on occasion - it's "nothing new" and simply Nature in action. If they don't like the risk, the answer is easy - MOVE!!!
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Re: Vancouver City declares Climate Emergency

Postby csm » Jan 22nd, 2019, 10:17 am

Frisk wrote:So while Vancouver is busy banning plastic straws and trying to solve a problem that's already been solved in their city, other countries look like this. Ignorance is bliss I guess.


Yes, but expecting 36 million people to have an impact on something generated by 7 billion is akin to a fly fart in a hurricane.

No one wearing a tin foil hat will change the planet - only de-population will!

But unfortunately, there are some radical societies that still have 8 - 10 children to our one and breeding their way into world dominance. Figure it out!!
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Re: Vancouver City declares Climate Emergency

Postby ninetyninepct » Feb 9th, 2019, 12:01 pm

Vancouver, a city that pours untreated sewage into the ocean, just like Victoria, an ocean full of sewage that the Orcas have to swim in. Politicians in both cities should face charges.

It would be interesting to discover how much Tides and / or other enviro-fascists contributed to Councillor's campaigns. Even Dogwood bragged about getting enviro-whacko Mayors and Councillors into office. Audits are called for to see where the dirty money trail is flowing.

Is all Politics in BC is corrupt? Horgan gave himself millions in tax money to finance his Party and we overburdened taxpayers don't even get to deduct the political "donation". Federal Liberals, Provincial and Federal NDP are clones and almost impossible to tell apart. Thy can't all possibly hate Canada, can they?
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