Political parties see donations drop

Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby Cactusflower » Feb 5th, 2019, 2:13 pm

^^In my world, as in everyone's world (at least those who like to play fair), both union and corporate donations should be curtailed. That's what our government decided to do. Do you have a problem with that? And if so, why?
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Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby Pete Podoski » Feb 5th, 2019, 3:09 pm

Gone_Fishin wrote:When is Horgan going to close the loophole he put in his legislation for big labour unions to keep contributing to the NDP?

MLA Stone Introduces Bill to Close Local Election Campaign Finance Loophole

Todd Stone
49 minutes ago

Last fall, all members of the Legislative Assembly supported amendments that removed big money from provincial and local elections by prohibiting union and corporate donations and capping individual contributions at $1,200 per year.

However, due to NDP incompetence, Elections BC ruled last week that a massive loophole exists in the rushed NDP amendments to the Local Election Campaign Financing Act which means that union and corporate donations are still allowed, and that there are no contribution limits as long as said donations are used to cover operational expenses.

In order to close this loophole and eliminate confusion, I introduced a private members bill. If the NDP doesn’t want to embrace my bill, that’s fine, but I encourage them to get on with a fix to this problem as soon as possible so that there is clarity in time for the local elections taking place little more than six months from now.


https://www.facebook.com/ToddGStone/vid ... 359919003/


It doesn't seem as though the N.D.P. cheerleaders want to address this.

It's deplorable, but so typical of the corrupt Horgan government.
#LetHerSpeak

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Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby Hassel99 » Feb 5th, 2019, 3:36 pm

Urban Cowboy wrote:
You sure about that?

Article states the NDP took in 3.3 million in 2018, while the Liberals took in 2.4 million in 2018.



Yes i am sure,

Liberals went from $12.7mm to $2.4mm a drop of $10.3mm
NDP went from $15.3mm to 3.3mm a drop of $12mm

Thus the NDP had a much larger drop (17%) due in donations from 2017 to 2018


Its really odd that the media talks about the new rules but says nothing about the fact that 2017 was an election year and 2018 was not. Obviously people donate more in election years.

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Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby Leifer » Feb 5th, 2019, 3:45 pm

What exactly was unfair about one party resonating much more with voters and thus raising more money than another party?


It is the socialist way of dealing with others exceling past their levels of performance/work ethic/achievements.
Instead of "upping their game"...the socialist would rather drag you down to their level with taxes/regulations/whatever.

It destroys peoples ambition and drive to do better. :-X
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Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby The Green Barbarian » Feb 5th, 2019, 3:58 pm

Cactusflower wrote:Resonating more with voters? On the contrary, they'd resonated more with corporations who used their big bucks to buy the political party most corrupt.


They bought the NDP?
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Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby buckland » Feb 5th, 2019, 6:15 pm

Hassel99 wrote:
Urban Cowboy wrote:
You sure about that?

Article states the NDP took in 3.3 million in 2018, while the Liberals took in 2.4 million in 2018.



Yes i am sure,

Liberals went from $12.7mm to $2.4mm a drop of $10.3mm
NDP went from $15.3mm to 3.3mm a drop of $12mm

Thus the NDP had a much larger drop (17%) due in donations from 2017 to 2018


Its really odd that the media talks about the new rules but says nothing about the fact that 2017 was an election year and 2018 was not. Obviously people donate more in election years.

Unfortunately, Urban cowboy tries the old trick of completely changing the story line by taking one sentence out of context to fit his narrative.

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Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby Cactusflower » Feb 5th, 2019, 6:33 pm

Pete Podoski wrote:
MLA Stone Introduces Bill to Close Local Election Campaign Finance Loophole

Todd Stone
49 minutes ago

Last fall, all members of the Legislative Assembly supported amendments that removed big money from provincial and local elections by prohibiting union and corporate donations and capping individual contributions at $1,200 per year.

However, due to NDP incompetence, Elections BC ruled last week that a massive loophole exists in the rushed NDP amendments to the Local Election Campaign Financing Act which means that union and corporate donations are still allowed, and that there are no contribution limits as long as said donations are used to cover operational expenses.

In order to close this loophole and eliminate confusion, I introduced a private members bill. If the NDP doesn’t want to embrace my bill, that’s fine, but I encourage them to get on with a fix to this problem as soon as possible so that there is clarity in time for the local elections taking place little more than six months from now.


https://www.facebook.com/ToddGStone/vid ... 359919003/


It doesn't seem as though the N.D.P. cheerleaders want to address this.

It's deplorable, but so typical of the corrupt Horgan government.[/quote]

I wouldn't dream of addressing anything Todd Stone says. BTW, when did he say this? What local elections are taking place six months from now?
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Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby buckland » Feb 5th, 2019, 6:43 pm

MLA Stone Introduces Bill to Close Local Election Campaign Finance Loophole

Todd Stone
49 minutes ago

Last fall, all members of the Legislative Assembly supported amendments that removed big money from provincial and local elections by prohibiting union and corporate donations and capping individual contributions at $1,200 per year.

However, due to NDP incompetence, Elections BC ruled last week that a massive loophole exists in the rushed NDP amendments to the Local Election Campaign Financing Act which means that union and corporate donations are still allowed, and that there are no contribution limits as long as said donations are used to cover operational expenses.

In order to close this loophole and eliminate confusion, I introduced a private members bill. If the NDP doesn’t want to embrace my bill, that’s fine, but I encourage them to get on with a fix to this problem as soon as possible so that there is clarity in time for the local elections taking place little more than six months from now.


https://www.facebook.com/ToddGStone/vid ... 359919003/
[/quote]

It doesn't seem as though the N.D.P. cheerleaders want to address this.

It's deplorable, but so typical of the corrupt Horgan government.[/quote]

I am not a member of any party nor have I ever been in my 70 years but just for you, a Liberal cheerleader eager to quote Stone: How short is your memory? Stone is the culprit who allowed the Liberal Government to steal 2 billion from ICBC and putting them in a hole we are all responsible for correcting with hikes in premiums. Stone's facebook post does not show his private member's bill content for us to look at. I can't find anything in Elections BC to support his claims so I sure as hell won't take his word for it. The Castanet article clearly states that contributions from unions and corporations are not allowed. It also states that Starting last year, political parties have received $2.50 for every vote they got in the last election, with the funding dropping by 25 cents each year until 2021.
That means both the Liberals and New Democrats will receive just over $8.1 million over five years, while the Green party will get $3.4 million.

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Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby Urban Cowboy » Feb 5th, 2019, 7:14 pm

Hassel99 wrote:
Urban Cowboy wrote:
You sure about that?

Article states the NDP took in 3.3 million in 2018, while the Liberals took in 2.4 million in 2018.



Yes i am sure,

Liberals went from $12.7mm to $2.4mm a drop of $10.3mm
NDP went from $15.3mm to 3.3mm a drop of $12mm

Thus the NDP had a much larger drop (17%) due in donations from 2017 to 2018


Its really odd that the media talks about the new rules but says nothing about the fact that 2017 was an election year and 2018 was not. Obviously people donate more in election years.


buckland wrote:Unfortunately, Urban cowboy tries the old trick of completely changing the story line by taking one sentence out of context to fit his narrative.


Not sure what "narrative" you're rambling on about, considering I merely asked a question. I wasn't comparing 2017 to 2018, merely looking at what the parties took in during 2018, at which time the NDP took in more than the Liberals, and I'm certainly no NDP fan. :1422:
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Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby LordEd » Feb 5th, 2019, 8:08 pm

Factual information is offensive to some...
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Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby flamingfingers » Feb 5th, 2019, 8:17 pm

LordEd wrote:Factual information is offensive to some...


Especially the BC Liberal supporters.
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Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby Urban Cowboy » Feb 6th, 2019, 1:20 am

^^ If ignorance is bliss, then you must be delirious.
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Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby LordEd » Feb 6th, 2019, 7:51 am

flamingfingers wrote:
LordEd wrote:Factual information is offensive to some...


Especially the BC Liberal supporters.
Good percentage of my posts are factual info with links and quotes. Lots of likes on those posts. Odd.
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Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby Cactusflower » Feb 6th, 2019, 8:39 am

Leifer wrote:
What exactly was unfair about one party resonating much more with voters and thus raising more money than another party?


It is the socialist way of dealing with others exceling past their levels of performance/work ethic/achievements.
Instead of "upping their game"...the socialist would rather drag you down to their level with taxes/regulations/whatever.

It destroys peoples ambition and drive to do better. :-X


Translation: The BC Liberals are still pouting because they are no longer in power.
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Re: Political parties see donations drop

Postby LordEd » Feb 6th, 2019, 10:59 am

Cactusflower wrote:Translation: The BC Liberals are still pouting because they are no longer in power.
Stating a fundamental philosophical difference between left and right is pouting. I'll go browse old posts to find other examples. Bookmarked for future use. Thanks.
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