Take away meds after OD's

Take away meds after OD's

Postby the truth » Feb 6th, 2019, 2:02 pm

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#248662 great junkies now being given free drugs on taxpayers dime , guess st paul's is now a drug dealer :200: :cuss:
suboxone https://drugabuse.com/lets-talk-about-t ... -suboxone/
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Re: Take away meds after OD's

Postby cutter7 » Feb 7th, 2019, 11:37 am

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Re: Take away meds after OD's

Postby the truth » Feb 7th, 2019, 12:50 pm

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Re: Take away meds after OD's

Postby TylerM4 » Feb 7th, 2019, 1:05 pm

I'd like to see the data that comes out of this before I cast judgement. I certainly expected to see haters on the forum.

I think folks need to understand what happens here. It's often addicts that OD (and they're only giving to true addicts not the college kids that are still in the experimenting stage).

When an addict OD's, they're given narcan and brought to the hospital for observation for a couple of hours. The narcan essentially removes all of the drug from their system. They're immediately dope-sick, they're usually depressed due to the event, and they're quickly back on the streets. What do you think the average junkie will do in that scenario? In most cases they're immediately looking for their next fix - and a way to pay for it. I'd rather give a junkie $20 in medication and an opportunity to seek assistance instead giving them my kid's $250 bicycle, the smashed window for $10 in change in the ashtray, or the catalytic converter from my truck. Or at least give it a trial and see if they're finding more people are getting help rather than getting their next fix.

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Re: Take away meds after OD's

Postby the truth » Feb 7th, 2019, 1:27 pm

i get what your saying but giving them free drugs is not the answer also
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Re: Take away meds after OD's

Postby gman313 » Feb 7th, 2019, 2:22 pm

the truth wrote:i get what your saying but giving them free drugs is not the answer also


it is definitely not THE answer. But it is better than people dropping dead. Lots will say let them die. But they are human

i'm sure there is a better solution out there and I have my thoughts, but this is better than death. Its probably cheaper to pay for the drugs than the constant barrage of full ambulance / fire response to every OD then the hospital bill we all pay when one is revived.

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Re: Take away meds after OD's

Postby jimmy4321 » Feb 7th, 2019, 4:53 pm

the truth wrote:i get what your saying but giving them free drugs is not the answer also

So what's the answer?
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Re: Take away meds after OD's

Postby the truth » Feb 7th, 2019, 7:27 pm

ask the over paid over educated in charge
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Re: Take away meds after OD's

Postby jimmy4321 » Feb 8th, 2019, 4:28 am

the truth wrote:ask the over paid over educated in charge


So you think you know what's wrong but have No clue what the solution is?
I'm certain the over paid and over educated(if that is even a thing) came up with the current patchwork, what's your solution?
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Re: Take away meds after OD's

Postby hutton » Feb 8th, 2019, 9:10 am

jimmy4321 wrote:
the truth wrote:i get what your saying but giving them free drugs is not the answer also

So what's the answer?


its pretty simple, take away the Narcan.

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Re: Take away meds after OD's

Postby Baulde » Feb 8th, 2019, 3:22 pm

TylerM4 wrote: The narcan essentially removes all of the drug from their system. They're immediately dope-sick, they're usually depressed due to the event, and they're quickly back on the streets.


Does not remove it but blocks it from attaching itself to the opioid receptors. The opioid is still in the system and once the narcan wears off they can return to an OD state.
Can take them into the feeling of withdrawl, which can come with them being mighty angry that you just killed their high and possibly combative. So watch out.
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Re: Take away meds after OD's

Postby ninetyninepct » Feb 9th, 2019, 11:07 am

Who gave society the right to force junkies to stay alive? Stuff them full of narcan so they can run out and commit more crimes to buy more drugs to do it all over again. First responders and the back-alley do-gooders know full well they are enabling junkies to commit more crimes. Somehow society has to break the cycle.

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Re: Take away meds after OD's

Postby casey60 » Feb 11th, 2019, 11:16 am

I am not on drugs. However I do require needles for my condition. I have to pay for them at the drugstore. Next time I run out I will be going to IHA to get a supply because they are free. World gone mad.

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Re: Take away meds after OD's

Postby dontrump » Feb 11th, 2019, 11:34 am

the way liberals Aid and abet drug users is the root cause of the massive problems we see

U need much much tougher drug pusher laws and much tougher judges to impose harsher sentences


Mandatory to be placed in a Incarcerated reahilibation center
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Re: Take away meds after OD's

Postby RandyDandy » Feb 11th, 2019, 2:14 pm

Pensioner. Had to pay $119.00 for asthma meds yesterday. No gvt help, no choice.
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