City of Vancouver & 4/20 *blank*

[GordonH]

Doesn't say in the brief article anything about taxpayers being on the hook for clean up this year, maybe with vendors in booths and a concert the admission fee will be enough to get it tidied up
It's become a tradition - where or not you think weed is more legal now or not

Here what happened last year:
https://globalnews.ca/news/4159359/vanc ... 20-damage/

similarly every year

[OKkayak]

I was listening to this on the radio last week. A lot of other event organizers are miffed because they have to pay for extra policing, clean up, etc. themselves and the 4/20 organizers are getting a free ride. According to the 4/20 organizers, they don't feel that they should have to pay for the extra policing because they already pay for policing as taxpayers

[Hassel99]

Does the sun run pay for extra police?
Does the Celebration of light pay for extra police?

[OKkayak]

Does the sun run pay for extra police?
Does the Celebration of light pay for extra police?

What does my entry fee pay for?

Your Vancouver Sun Run entry fee helps to pay for staging, organizational and administrative costs such as: technical shirts and screen printing; city costs including ambulance, traffic authority and police; medical supplies; fencing, stages, tents, radios, water station equipment; race bibs, pins, timing tags, race timing and data entry organization; online entry administration fees; venue rental; entertainment, signage and pageantry; fruit and bagels at the finish party; volunteer shirts, lunches and transportation; elite athlete prize money and hosting; production and printing of marketing material to raise awareness and inform the public, including a direct mail and direct email to past participants, plus event management and marketing fees.

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/sunr ... about.html

Raymond Greenwood helped bring the annual fireworks competition to downtown Vancouver in 1990, chairing what was then known as the Benson and Hedges Symphony of Fire for a decade, and he says his organization paid for policing.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2019/04/12 ... pay-costs/

And the reason why the 4/20 organizers remain adamant on calling their event a protest:

Meanwhile, public protests don't have to pay for policing, and how could they? If every protest had to cover a $100,000 or more policing bill, there would be no more protests, which amounts to censorship and restricting people's right to gather in pubic spaces.

So when it comes to the policing cost for the Trump Tower protest, the 4/20 protest, the Missing and Murdered Women's March, the right protest and counter-protest at City Hall, and every other one of our city's many, many public protests and marches, all those costs just come out of the general policing budget.

https://www.straight.com/news/1042511/d ... e-must-pay

[pieinthei]

question.. Are these "vendors" licensed vendors, or just dealers? do they have business licenses, permits etc?
i find it really discriminating that they can do what they want, when they want with no repercussions.. if i wanted to open up a legitimate business, i would have to do it right or be shut down..

[JagXKR]

Of course they are not licensed. They have been doing this for many years, back when it was completely illegal. Why would they change?
The eunuch police don't do anything about it. It's been a free for all for many years. If the police tried to do anything well we all know what the results would be...
RIOT!

[capleton]

Taxpayers could be in for another huge clean up bill, that organizer of 4/20 once again won't pay for. How can a protest continue to happen if the item of the protest is now legal.

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/254236 ... 20-warning

You complain about this don't complain about the billions of dollars that police spend on the War on Drugs. You don't care about the taxes or anything you just hate anything that has to do with cannabis, clearly its people like you we are protesting against.

[capleton]

I actually prefer it was just made illegal again

Prohibition has not achieved anything so why?

[Country plough boy]

I actually prefer it was just made illegal again

Prohibition has not achieved anything so why?

At least it was a free market.

[capleton]

The problem is the Cannabis Act, its deeply flawed.

[GordonH]

The problem is the Cannabis Act, its deeply flawed.

Please elaborate, since it's very large document. Point out the main flaws you see, thank you.

[Country plough boy]

The problem is the Cannabis Act, its deeply flawed.

Please elaborate, since it's very large document. Point out the main flaws you see, thank you.

They could have easily just made weed legal.

No ifs and or buts.

Instead they have tried the walled garden approach. Trying to artificially raise prices . To suck up more tax dollars they do not deserve.
https://apple.news/AgDot9bxbQfavqF1vMir-AQ
It is clearly a massive failure.


The crooks tried to make it so only their friends could farm dope. Could only grow indoors. Etc etc. The list of stupid in the Cannabis act is the whole act.

[Mordu]

The concert is free: “Vancouver is Awesome!”

http://www.vancouverisawesome.com/2019/ ... vancouver/

FAQs

http://420vancouver.com/faq/

What is 4/20 Vancouver?

April 20th is internationally recognized as the cannabis culture’s national holiday, with massive rallies, festivals, protests, marches and other events in thousands of cities worldwide.
4/20 Vancouver is a celebration of the cannabis culture, and a protest against prohibition. 4/20 Vancouver is diverse, inclusive, and welcomes people from all across Canada and the world.
There are speakers, artists, politicians, musicians, performers, vendors, entrepreneurs, and community members of all kinds.
4/20 Vancouver is one of the oldest 4/20 gatherings in the world, beginning at Vancouver’s Victory Square in April 1995. The rally evolved into a bigger protest at the Vancouver Art Gallery in the centre of the city, before moving to the more spacious and accommodating Sunset Beach park in 2016.

Who organizes 4/20 Vancouver?

Since 1995, long-time local cannabis activists and advocates have been volunteering their time and contributing funds for hosting the rally.
As the event grew, costs for first aid, security, toilets and other necessities began to rise, so organizers collect donations from sponsors and vendors to cover the costs.
The 420 Vancouver Events Society was recently formed to operate the ever-growing event, and all funds raised from donations and sponsorships cover the costs required by city officials and other authorities.

Does 4/20 Vancouver pay for the costs of the event?

Every year, the increased popularity and successful management of 4/20 Vancouver means increased costs are requested by local government and health officials.
Every year, 4/20 Vancouver nonprofit society volunteer organizers raise more donations from sponsors and vendors to pay for the costs of the event.
Money is raised to pay for first aid, security, fencing, toilets, clean-up, ground coverings, radios, safety plans, ambulances, drinking water, and other necessary costs. 4/20 Vancouver also pays for the lost income of the Sunset Beach concession and the Aquatic Centre.
Unlike other large public gatherings such as Pride and the Celebration of Light Fireworks, 4/20 Vancouver does not receive any taxpayer subsidies under the “civic status” designation to cover the costs of the event.
4/20 Vancouver is self-funded, and does not cost taxpayers money in the same way that other large events do.

Does 4/20 Vancouver work with any official authorities?

Every year, volunteer organizers work hand-in-hand with the City of Vancouver, Park Board, Vancouver Police, Vancouver Fire and Rescue, Vancouver Coastal Health, Park Rangers, BC Ambulance, and other government officials to ensure the event is safe and successful.
Together, our teams coordinate the city’s most peaceful and professional mass gathering.

Does 4/20 Vancouver have a permit?

4/20 Vancouver applied for a permit, but the Park Board banned permitting the event, despite Park Board staff supporting the granting of a permit.
Regardless, every year, organizers receive the list of permitted activities given to other large public events, and follow and pay for the requirements involved.
4/20 Vancouver would be happy to be treated equally to other public events, and be granted permits, and taxpayer subsidies, and corporate sponsorships to pay for the costs. Until then, the gathering is still public peaceful civil disobedience, and therefore a legitimate protest.

Isn’t cannabis legalized? What is 4/20 Vancouver protesting?

According to lawyers and civil liberties advocates, cannabis criminalization and rights violations continue to exist under the “Cannabis Act” in Canada.
The Cannabis Act created 45 new criminal offences; devoted hundreds of millions of dollars in additional law enforcement spending, on top of the pre-existing half-billion dollars being spent; and introduced new costly, punitive measures on provincial and municipal levels.
People are still being arrested and sent to jail – ten months locked in a cell, for 86 grams of a flowers from a plant! – and losing their housing, children, job opportunities, travel rights, and more.
Medical cannabis patients do not have access to cannabis, and are seeing their medicine being sold by governments and corporations in a recreational market run by former police and politicians.
The ongoing discrimination and intolerance of cannabis and events like 4/20 demonstrates why there’s still a need for public cultural gatherings and educational opportunities. There’s a stigma attached to cannabis, and harm caused by the laws, so that is why we still protest.

Zone map:

http://420vancouver.com/wp-content/uplo ... 19-Map.pdf

Link to the sponsors:

http://420vancouver.com/sponsors/

BOOTH RULES

http://420vancouver.com/booths/

No generators
No more than one wall per tent
No BBQs, butane burners, or open flames
No selling alcohol
Do not sell marijuana products to minors (19+ only)
Clearly label edibles and other infused consumables as containing cannabis
Clean up your garbage! Vendors who leave a mess will be banned from reserving booth space in the future

[Mordu]

Call out the 'Raging Grannies' for a counter protest!

They've been 'busy raising their children while drinking their cocktails and smoking their cigarettes' but now it looks like they're good to go.

And I bet they'd love it if somebody else had to clean up the mess.

[Treblehook]

It should be cancelled..no ieason for it now. Recreational pot is legal, so...... Unfathomable that these morons should be able to hold a big gathering like this on public lands and leave it like a pig pen like last year. Disgusting human beings.