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I don't have an opinion to offer on the thread, other than - __it happened.

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GordonH wrote:Taxpayers could be in for another huge clean up bill, that organizer of 4/20 once again won't pay for. How can a protest continue to happen if the item of the protest is now legal.

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/254236 ... 20-warning

capleton wrote:You complain about this don't complain about the billions of dollars that police spend on the War on Drugs. You don't care about the taxes or anything you just hate anything that has to do with cannabis, clearly its people like you we are protesting against.


I've always said un-winnable war.

This thread is about an organizer that doesn't take responsible for any of costs around their massive party on public lands.
impo just bunch of self entitled pr :cuss: s

Now for next "X" weeks that park is off limits to enable the grass to grow back.
In meantime city will be cleaning up all the garbage & paying for extra policing
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I dunno Gordon, this week I saw how one uptight, self entitled pr :cuss: can cause an awfully big loss in a community. 100,000 people get together and trample some lawn? I think they'll get over that, much faster than we'll get over this.

Anyways, I was confused about the protest too.



I'm not anymore. I don't say I agree, or disagree, but that I do understand they are protesting.
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Drip_Torch wrote:I dunno Gordon, this week I saw how one uptight, self entitled pr :cuss: can cause an awfully big loss in a community. 100,000 people get together and trample some lawn? I think they'll get over that, much faster than we'll get over this.

Anyways, I was confused about the protest too.



I'm not anymore. I don't say I agree, or disagree, but that I do understand they are protesting.


Wow... you are comparing first degree murder to a group not paying for clean up & extra police presents. That rather extreme
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100,000 to 150,000 folks got together and lived their lives, apparently short of your expectations of them. We'll see tomorrow what horrors Vancouver has to recover from.

If I were to cut it down to brass tacks - I'm saying intolerance is ugly.
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Drip_Torch wrote:100,000 to 150,000 folks got together and lived their lives, apparently short of your expectations of them. We'll see tomorrow what horrors Vancouver has to recover from.

If I were to cut it down to brass tacks - I'm saying intolerance is ugly.


Other events pay for clean up they also pay for any extra police that are needed.
Not 4/20 they leave it up to the taxpayers of Vancouver, money better spent elsewhere.
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GordonH wrote:
Drip_Torch wrote:100,000 to 150,000 folks got together and lived their lives, apparently short of your expectations of them. We'll see tomorrow what horrors Vancouver has to recover from.

If I were to cut it down to brass tacks - I'm saying intolerance is ugly.


Other events pay for clean up they also pay for any extra police that are needed.
Not 4/20 they leave it up to the taxpayers of Vancouver, money better spent elsewhere.


Fair enough. Everyone there pays to be policed and it's not like the event organizers are asking for extra officers to shut down roads and maintain a perimeter. I don't know that I see the "extra police" and I've actually had a line in a budget that paid for extra police - in my previous life. The clean up, yeah that might have been a thing in the past, might even be a thing this year. Although, from what I saw it seemed to be better organized this year.

$72,000, that's at least a small portion of what taxpayers in my town are paying for events in the next 10 months and there won't be a 100,000 people show up over the course of all of those events. Money better spent elsewhere? I dunno - like I tried to point out to you earlier, I just don't see it as a big deal.

Anyways, like I said, I was drawn to the thread because I didn't readily see it as a protest anymore, but after watching the video, I get that it still is. Too bad, because I think if the fed's had got this right, it could have really put a damper on the black market trade and opened up many more opportunities for folks.
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Drip_Torch wrote:100,000 to 150,000 folks got together and lived their lives, apparently short of your expectations of them. We'll see tomorrow what horrors Vancouver has to recover from.

If I were to cut it down to brass tacks - I'm saying intolerance is ugly.

GordonH wrote:Other events pay for clean up they also pay for any extra police that are needed.
Not 4/20 they leave it up to the taxpayers of Vancouver, money better spent elsewhere.

Drip_Torch wrote:Fair enough. Everyone there pays to be policed and it's not like the event organizers are asking for extra officers to shut down roads and maintain a perimeter. I don't know that I see the "extra police" and I've actually had a line in a budget that paid for extra police - in my previous life. The clean up, yeah that might have been a thing in the past, might even be a thing this year. Although, from what I saw it seemed to be better organized this year.

$72,000, that's at least a small portion of what taxpayers in my town are paying for events in the next 10 months and there won't be a 100,000 people show up over the course of all of those events. Money better spent elsewhere? I dunno - like I tried to point out to you earlier, I just don't see it as a big deal.

Anyways, like I said, I was drawn to the thread because I didn't readily see it as a protest anymore, but after watching the video, I get that it still is. Too bad, because I think if the fed's had got this right, it could have really put a damper on the black market trade and opened up many more opportunities for folks.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5028986/vancouver-420-costs/
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Drip_Torch wrote:Everyone there pays to be policed and it's not like the event organizers are asking for extra officers to shut down roads and maintain a perimeter.

Roads need to be watched, controlled by the police directing the flow of vehicles and pedestrians. The north end of the city was bad enough starting at Georgia and Denman with people trying to get down there. I couldn't even imagine how bad the Davie/Denman and Burrard/Pacific corridor's were.
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I love the historic Vietnam War ‘Fish Cheer’ protest song from Woodstock, but that speech by B Reel (above) was simply disgusting unnecessary profanity being broadcast into a normally quiet and peaceful neighbourhood. He should have been arrested.
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Mordu wrote:I love the historic Vietnam War ‘Fish Cheer’ protest song from Woodstock, but that speech by B Reel (above) was simply disgusting unnecessary profanity being broadcast into a normally quiet and peaceful neighbourhood. He should have been arrested.


Second thought, maybe I should contact the protest’s sponsors with my complaint and suggest how I’ll request my boomer friends to boycott their products (questionably legal or not) if they don’t publish public apologies for condoning the above behaviour along with make a promise to pull their endorsement if they hear that type of thing in the future.

http://420vancouver.com/sponsors/


Also I might warn them that if they don’t get back to me with a positive response immediately, I’ll cite them in a similar letter to the editor of ‘Castanet’, the ‘Georgia Straight,’ and other relevant news media.

Ah, but maybe just posting a complaint on the Castanet forum will be a powerful enough message to incite the change that I want to see.
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OKkayak wrote:
Drip_Torch wrote:Everyone there pays to be policed and it's not like the event organizers are asking for extra officers to shut down roads and maintain a perimeter.

Roads need to be watched, controlled by the police directing the flow of vehicles and pedestrians. The north end of the city was bad enough starting at Georgia and Denman with people trying to get down there. I couldn't even imagine how bad the Davie/Denman and Burrard/Pacific corridor's were.


Sure. VPD assesses approximately 800 protests/year and they deploy resources to about 200 of those. Safety and security - that's what police do and VPD are exceptionally good at it.

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smoking in parks is supposed to be illegal so if you fine all the pot heads smoking in the park you raise money for your policing costs one problem solved now onto the litter issues
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Well harrumph, but I'm still not happy about the profanity.

"Photos: Sunset Beach Park—the morning after 4/20 Vancouver"

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Huh, sometimes people just defy all expectations...

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It's a special kind of great when it goes this way...

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