Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby Glacier » Jun 28th, 2019, 4:26 pm

Salmon could be doomed if the 5m dam is not taken out by September. Most Salmon in the Fraser swim UPRIVER past this point. Major spawning grounds upriver are the Chilcotin-Chilko, Quesnel, and, Nechako-Stuart.

The Fraser is flowing at 2440 m^3/s at this point right now so that's a lot of volume to deal with trying to fix.

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Re: Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby Queen K » Jun 28th, 2019, 4:33 pm

Dynamite it out maybe?

Let the river take it's course?

What did nature do before, when landscapes changed?
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Re: Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby LTD » Jun 28th, 2019, 4:35 pm

leave it alone mother nature knows what shes doing
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Re: Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby Bsuds » Jun 28th, 2019, 4:53 pm

LTD wrote:leave it alone mother nature knows what shes doing


Mother Nature is a psycho *bleep*. :biggrin:
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Re: Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby GordonH » Jun 28th, 2019, 5:28 pm

If it was created/caused by humans activities then we must fix it, but if it was caused by nature then let nature work it out.
Since this planet has been around for a lot longer than us humans and it has survived.
It will survive long after we are gone
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Re: Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby Glacier » Jun 28th, 2019, 5:32 pm

GordonH wrote:If it was created/caused by humans activities then we must fix it, but if it was caused by nature then let nature work it out.
Since this planet has been around for a lot longer than us humans and it has survived.
It will survive long after we are gone

Aren't humans part of nature?
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Re: Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby GordonH » Jun 28th, 2019, 5:36 pm

GordonH wrote:If it was created/caused by humans activities then we must fix it, but if it was caused by nature then let nature work it out.
Since this planet has been around for a lot longer than us humans and it has survived.
It will survive long after we are gone

Glacier wrote:Aren't humans part of nature?


Yes we are, unfortunately we are also the most disruptive & dangerous of all the creatures on this planet.
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Re: Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby Glacier » Jun 28th, 2019, 5:57 pm

GordonH wrote:Yes we are, unfortunately we are also the most disruptive & dangerous of all the creatures on this planet.

We CAN be the most disruptive, but we can also be the most productive. Humans are capable of destruction and building. We are capable of causing massive slides that destroy rivers, AND we are capable of fixing rivers when Mother Nature causes massive destruction to a river. Why not do the constructive thing here and fix the problem?
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Re: Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby Glacier » Jun 28th, 2019, 6:15 pm

STUPID *bleep*!!!!! The #FakeNewsMedia doens't know the difference between the Thompson and the Fraser!
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Re: Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby Urban Cowboy » Jun 28th, 2019, 6:48 pm

I'm with Queen K on this one.

The water is already turbulent, so what can some explosives hurt?

Or call in an F18 for some target practice and kill two birds with one stone. :biggrin:
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Re: Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby Queen K » Jun 28th, 2019, 7:13 pm

I have horrifying photos of the erosion the Fraser does. I suspect landslides have been the norm since it was a tiny creek.
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Re: Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby LTD » Jun 28th, 2019, 7:16 pm

Queen K wrote:I have horrifying photos of the erosion the Fraser does. I suspect landslides have been the norm since it was a tiny creek.

all the more reason to leave it alone and quit poking our fingers where we shouldn't be, the fish will figure it out it isn't the first time this has happened

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Re: Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby Queen K » Jun 28th, 2019, 7:22 pm

Problem is, we need those fish to spawn!
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Re: Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby seewood » Jun 28th, 2019, 7:29 pm

In 1914 a blast from the construction of the rail way slid into the Fraser at Hells Gate, blocking the salmon from moving up river. That decimated the coastal fish stocks, especially the Chinook.

In 1946, I believe a fish ladder was constructed on the west side of the canyon and salmon once again could move up river.

I suspect this might be what biologists are thinking about today. When the water drops I'm sure the professionals will get a better handle on what they are dealing with.
For the time being, early run Chinook likely could be backing up at the slide location, not a good thing. The upper and middle Fraser runs could be knackered for a bit but just perhaps low water flows later this year might let the salmon pass this.
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Re: Massive Rockslide Blocks the Might Fraser River

Postby LTD » Jun 28th, 2019, 8:01 pm

Queen K wrote:Problem is, we need those fish to spawn!

the fish have been dealing with it for thousands of years they will be just fine without our interference
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