Mandatory Training for Truckers

[69cutlass]

Everyone in the industry has been saying what in that article for years. It's disgusting and a big contributing factor in driving wages down across the industry.

[dirtybiker]

I know, the article is based in Ontario, doesn't mean it isn't happening
right across all jurisdictions.

Nutshell; 5 drivers trained at once. 1 hour behind the wheel each, claimed a 5 hours
training each.
Taking tests in bedroom communities away from the school that allegedly trained them.
Falsified documentation.

https://roadwarriornews.com/confessions ... 4IGCbkwtfg

[dirtybiker]

Found this...was never published.

Dang, I cut my teeth in the industry with this company, even went on to working
for a satellite outfit of theirs years later.

[seewood]

Coming back from Calgary today and for the first time in many years, RCMP had a semi pulled over.
Speed limit was posted as 100 kph.
Area was about 40 k east of Revelstoke.
Guess it does happen.

[the truth]

I know, the article is based in Ontario, doesn't mean it isn't happening
right across all jurisdictions.

Nutshell; 5 drivers trained at once. 1 hour behind the wheel each, claimed a 5 hours
training each.
Taking tests in bedroom communities away from the school that allegedly trained them.
Falsified documentation.

https://roadwarriornews.com/confessions ... 4IGCbkwtfg

the scam goes on, more unqualified truck drivers on the road , just a matter of time before another humboldt https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatch ... -1.6378794

[alanjh595]

I know, the article is based in Ontario, doesn't mean it isn't happening
right across all jurisdictions.

Nutshell; 5 drivers trained at once. 1 hour behind the wheel each, claimed a 5 hours
training each.
Taking tests in bedroom communities away from the school that allegedly trained them.
Falsified documentation.

https://roadwarriornews.com/confessions ... 4IGCbkwtfg

the scam goes on, more unqualified truck drivers on the road , just a matter of time before another humboldt https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatch ... -1.6378794

For how many years did the system work just fine before Humbolt without such an accident?

1,000s and 1,000s of flat, straight roads in Saskatchewan, but just like a roll of the dice, in the middle of nowhere two vehicles meet.

It doesn't matter how much training a driver gets before his test, or in what municipality the test is administered, if he passes, he passes. He is now licensed to drive anywhere in Canada legally. That is a benefit of being a Canadian citizen or a landed immigrant.

[dirtybiker]

For how many years did the system work just fine before Humbolt without such an accident?

1,000s and 1,000s of flat, straight roads in Saskatchewan, but just like a roll of the dice, in the middle of nowhere two vehicles meet.

It doesn't matter how much training a driver gets before his test, or in what municipality the test is administered, if he passes, he passes. He is now licensed to drive anywhere in Canada legally. That is a benefit of being a Canadian citizen or a landed immigrant.

Seems someone been mixing pharmaceuticals with alcohol again.
What a messed up view.

[neighbor]

I am not sure why federal training requirements with assessments for training programs hasn't happen. The fact this guy seems to think everything was hunky dory is shocking. My experience driving the highways of Canada, specifically BC & Alberta, and dealing with Canadian truckers down here has been anything but a shitz and giggles. More like holy .

Firstly, we are wary of Canadian plated trucks in Washington. Anyone who frequently travels east to west, knows to stay clear of Canadian plates. We recently had one BC trucker shut down i90 after sheering off the back wheels, container crossing over to concrete barier, onto oncoming traffic and setting fire. The cab ended up on the shoulder of the road, luckily not in the lake, all because he over-corrected while looking down at his laptop. His passenger left the scene. We have seen trucks on their sides on the shoulder of Stampede Pass more times than I can remember. And dealing with them trying to back up to dock at a warehouse usually requires someone available to back up a truck on the receiving staff if trucks are stacked up waiting for an inexperienced driver. Washington truckers, as long as they are not hauling hay or produce, are who you want to follow in inclement weather while traveling our passes, as they know what's going on with roads, and weather conditions.
My experience in Canada...

Warned by Canadian parents to stay clear of truckers, dump trucks, oil tanker trailers. Anything large commercial. Highway of death" to Fort McMurray, their is a reason for it's name.

Outside of Red Deer...The entire highway heading north slowed down to watch a double stack dump truck driving at a high rate, fully loaded with materials, swerving in and out of lanes and just barely missing guard rails on the shoulder of the highway.

Highway 3....Just missed being rear-ended by a truck that slammed on its brakes, and skidded by my car and the car ahead of me on the shoulder of the road, just outside Crowsnest. Watched a truck roll up on two wheels while corning, and crossing the center line while heading home from Lethbridge. Saw a near miss with one truck passing another which spewed gravel all over the cars following behind. Followed semi's going into Princeton that raised up off of two wheels driving to fast for the poorly maintained and banked road.

Trans-Canada...Watched a near miss as a trucker nearly caused a head-on just outside of Golden driving to fast as the speed dropped down on the tight turns. Truck on the side of the road with a broken rear axle that damaged the road.

Highway 97...Trucks on their side near Oliver. We've seen two in the last four years leading up to 2020. Passed the rear end of a semi crossing the bridge out of Kelowna, the driver managed to travel almost 1/4 of a mile before stopping. That was a major wait getting out of the area. An entire load of engineered wood scattered across the highway coming into Penticton. A south bound semi facing the wrong direction on the shoulder, up against the barrier on the north bound side on the hill above OK Falls...

I get that car drivers are sometimes horrible, speed, and drive unsafe, which contributes to incidents. And the fact that there is literally no enforcement or regulation of drivers on Canadian highways, ( I've seen maybe 4 Highway RCMP or patrol or whatever they are called since visiting in 2015, monitoring speeds. Of course we have seen them at incidents) adds to the number of incidents. It cannot be blamed solely on truckers, but the lack of training is very concerning.

As we move up close to the border, so we can visit family in Penticton and enjoy exploring the Okanagan, my biggest worry is driving the highways of BC. I stress every time family travels to the lower mainland knowing the hazards of BC highways.

Hopefully something is put in place to make roads safer, drivers are trained a paid what they deserve, and enforcement actually happens.

[alanjh595]

^^^^^^ I agree, I think every trucker (from both sides of the border) should be licensed for each and every state/province/territory that they operate in.

There are huge differences between road conditions/weather all over North America. Just imagine a Florida licensed driver in Alaska in the middle of Winter.

[Urban Cowboy]

^^ Not disputing what you claim above neighbor, but at the same time I don't buy your insinuation that US plated truckers are that much better.

The only major wreck I've ever been involved in, was when a US trucker took six of us out, because he was driving way too fast for conditions and lost control of his trailer in a curve.

We were all stopped before he hit us, but being between two rock walls, we simply had nowhere to go. He was damn lucky that no one was seriously hurt, especially considering his trailer hit the car in front of me hard enough to slap it into the rock wall.

Hopefully he learned, that you can't do summer speed limits, on 4" of fresh fallen snow that hasn't been plowed or sanded yet.

Back when I first began to drive, big rig operators were competent, and courteous, something I can't really say about what's on our roads these days. One would think that with all the dash cams out there now, it would compel them to do better but sadly that doesn't seem to be the case.

[Queen K]

Were you caught at that accident outside Summerland today?

[seewood]

The Mrs. was, 40 minutes. Got going and passed a burned out car laying on its side.

[mullyman]

Found this...was never published.

Love this.. so true!

[dirtybiker]

More quality training programs spitting out new talent on to the Nations roads.
https://www.trucknews.com/road-today/11 ... g-schemes/

Good luck out there, it plays as big a roll as skill I suppose.

[Catsumi]

More quality training programs spitting out new talent on to the Nations roads.
https://www.trucknews.com/road-today/11 ... g-schemes/

Good luck out there, it plays as big a roll as skill I suppose.

From DB’s link: (which should make all road users quiver in fear…just how many of them are out there, loose, on the highways now?}

“The focus of this lengthy investigation has been public safety,” said Detective Inspector Daniel Nadeau of the OPP Criminal Investigation Branch. “Tractor-trailers and other commercial vehicles can be deadly in the hands of those with little or unapproved training.”

I wonder what finally tipped them off that shady Schools of Driving a Big Truck was a bad idea, in need of investigation and shutdown?