BC Teachers... here we go again

[Babba_not_Gump]

My last job was with the BC government and I saw first hand, intimidation when it came to voting for BCGEU shop stewards.
This will only get worse.

The far left love their little dictatorships.

Wasn't the election of shop stewards by the the union members, FOR their leadership, BY the members, that they chose to have represent them?

Sounds pretty democratic to me. Sorry, that your opinions were overruled in favour of the majority.

Wasn't quite like that Alan.
Intimidation of the union rep who was overseeing the election. The aggressor was upset because his buddy wasn't elected.
Prior to that he was in the face of the weaker members demanding they vote for his guy.

Myself and another guy threatened to throw him out of the workplace which shut him up.

Not a very democratic sight.

[The Green Barbarian]

Wasn't quite like that Alan.
Intimidation of the union rep who was overseeing the election. The aggressor was upset because his buddy wasn't elected.
Prior to that he was in the face of the weaker members demanding they vote for his guy.

Myself and another guy threatened to throw him out of the workplace which shut him up.

Not a very democratic sight.

Yup total disgusting and evil behavior. The union model doesn't work in government context. It results in so much negative garbage. The union industrial model is out-dated and doomed to fail. Just so gross and wrong.

[Urban Cowboy]

[TheBanHammer]

I worked for a company where it got so bad with new hires that they photocopied tape measures. The new prospect would have to give the measurement being pointed to on the tape. Forty percent of applicants were rejected because they could not pass this simple test lol. The applicants all required a grade 12 diploma. I fail to see a level of education here that justifies a raise of any kind.

When a student graduates without the most basic of skills required to secure employment one has to ask what it is exactly that they are teaching them. From what I have seen nowadays math, english, science, history and shop have taken a back seat to gender studies, social engineering and the fairy tale of equal outcomes. All the tools needed to become a an activists of one sort or another, a dog walker or a barista. Yes there still are some good teachers there, but the boards and their ridiculous curriculums are becoming less and less educational from a practical stand point that teaches the tools that students will require in life. When a young person graduates without a decent command of the four pillars of education the institution and all those employed there have failed and I don't like my taxes used for failure.

Lolol who am I kidding? The governments been using my tax dollars for that since I entered the workforce!

[seewood]

When a student graduates without the most basic of skills required to secure employment one has to ask what it is exactly that they are teaching them. From what I have seen nowadays math, english, science, history and shop have taken a back seat to gender studies, social engineering and the fairy tale of equal outcomes. All the tools needed to become a an activists of one sort or another, a dog walker or a barista. Yes there still are some good teachers there, but the boards and their ridiculous curriculums are becoming less and less educational from a practical stand point that teaches the tools that students will require in life. When a young person graduates without a decent command of the four pillars of education the institution and all those employed there have failed and I don't like my taxes used for failure.

Not always the case of course, We have friends kids that are working their way through engineering for example, while others are lost soles still living with mommy at 24 and not working.
Dad and another I knew that emigrated from England and Austria in the 50's both said the math skills of Canadians were years behind Europe. I can remember Dad harping on the socialist teachers we had in the 60's and 70's while I was at school.
Some things don't change I guess..

I think the curriculum is broken. I really want to hear kids have a mandatory class where the various careers/job opportunities are broken down as to the expected remuneration and the work involved to get there. Then have the kids do an exercise where they can figure the cost of living. Be interesting to see if their expectations match.

[Gone_Fishin]

BCTF be like: "It's okay, students, there's no wrong answer."

Time to go back to the three R's and start producing students that can add value to society again.

Pumping out a bunch of climate activists and gender studies "graduates" is why there's a huge labour talent shortage in our country right now.

[YzzzR1]

BCTF be like: "It's okay, students, there's no wrong answer."

Time to go back to the three R's and start producing students that can add value to society again.

Pumping out a bunch of climate activists and gender studies "graduates" is why there's a huge labour talent shortage in our country right now.

Yup, then when they do graduate, they need 'Life Coaches' just to navigate the 'mean ol world'. Talk about having the education system fail everyone.

[common_sense_guy]

This isn't necessarily about the teachers but it's along the same lines as this thread. The ads coming out talking about the BC government employees falling behind in wages and they group in the people working at pot stores and alcohol stores in the same breath as the truly important fireman doctors and nurses and every other thing like that. Let's get this straight. The people that work in the pot and alcohol stores are not essential. Nor should they be making a wage that it appears they want to just because they're in a union. Just a complete joke.

[Urban Cowboy]

BCTF be like: "It's okay, students, there's no wrong answer."

Time to go back to the three R's and start producing students that can add value to society again.

Pumping out a bunch of climate activists and gender studies "graduates" is why there's a huge labour talent shortage in our country right now.

Yup, then when they do graduate, they need 'Life Coaches' just to navigate the 'mean ol world'. Talk about having the education system fail everyone.

[I_am_a_Liberal]

This isn't necessarily about the teachers but it's along the same lines as this thread. The ads coming out talking about the BC government employees falling behind in wages and they group in the people working at pot stores and alcohol stores in the same breath as the truly important fireman doctors and nurses and every other thing like that. Let's get this straight. The people that work in the pot and alcohol stores are not essential. Nor should they be making a wage that it appears they want to just because they're in a union. Just a complete joke.

I haven't seen pot store workers claiming to be "essential". But they are government employees just the same. People with prejudice against government unions workers are just jealous that they are not. Because they or their bitter family voted for governments that busted unions 40 years ago for the fantasy of trickle-down economics. If someone is a union worker - it's nobody else's business. If someone is a pot worker - it's no one's business. Just like the scab subcontractor from the 80's (on through to today) undercuts with cash jobs are no one else's business. The whole busy body "look at unions - boo hoo!" is childish. No one is stopping qualified workers from getting union perks. Just apply and you too can get union benefits.

[common_sense_guy]

This isn't necessarily about the teachers but it's along the same lines as this thread. The ads coming out talking about the BC government employees falling behind in wages and they group in the people working at pot stores and alcohol stores in the same breath as the truly important fireman doctors and nurses and every other thing like that. Let's get this straight. The people that work in the pot and alcohol stores are not essential. Nor should they be making a wage that it appears they want to just because they're in a union. Just a complete joke.

I haven't seen pot store workers claiming to be "essential". But they are government employees just the same. People with prejudice against government unions workers are just jealous that they are not. Because they or their bitter family voted for governments that busted unions 40 years ago for the fantasy of trickle-down economics. If someone is a union worker - it's nobody else's business. If someone is a pot worker - it's no one's business. Just like the scab subcontractor from the 80's (on through to today) undercuts with cash jobs are no one else's business. The whole busy body "look at unions - boo hoo!" is childish. No one is stopping qualified workers from getting union perks. Just apply and you too can get union benefits.

Only going to respond to the first two things that pop out from your response. I never claimed their essential but they're grouping them together with truly essential workers. Giving their statement an undertone that they're making it sound like they're just as essential.
2. Do you really think just because they are government union workers they deserve the same amount as people that have a skill. Or are you just prejudice against people that have an opinion that happens to be on point. Those are our tax dollars paying for the high-school Dropout working the till at a cannabis or alcohol store. They don't deserve the wage that a union essential worker gets.
If you do think they deserve the same wage just because their Union and govt and not based on what they're doing for work or education required then in my opinion you have no concept about how it should work but unfortunately doesn't. I can't see how anybody in their right mind would argue that they deserve a higher wage. Keep in mind we're paying for it

[I_am_a_Liberal]

*removed*

[rustled]

Received this from a retired teacher a few days ago, pretty much sums it up for many :

1. Teaching Math In 1950...

A logger sells a truckload of timber for $100

His cost of production is 4/5 of the price.

What is his profit? $____



2 Teaching Math In 1970...

A logger sells a truckload of timber for $100.

His cost of production is 4/5 of the price, or $80.

What is his profit? $___



3 Teaching Math In 1990...

A logger sells a truckload of timber for $100.

His cost of production is $80.

Did he make a profit? __Yes or __No



4. Teaching Math In 2000...

A logger sells a truckload of timber for $100.

His cost of production is $80 and his profit is $20.

Your assignment: Underline the number 20.



5. Teaching Math In 2015...

A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the preservation of our woodlands.

He does this so he can make a profit of $20.

What do you think of this way of making a living?

Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes



6. Teaching Math in 2021...

Math is Racist.

Students no longer need any math skills to go to Graduate school.

2+2 = 4, or 22, or what ever you feel is correct.

There are no wrong answers, feel free to express your feelings e.g., anger, anxiety, inadequacy, helplessness etc.

Should you require debriefing at the conclusion of the exam there are Counsellors available to assist you to adjust back into the real world.

[cv23]

Received this from a retired teacher a few days ago, pretty much sums it up for many :

1. Teaching Math In 1950...

A logger sells a truckload of timber for $100

His cost of production is 4/5 of the price.

What is his profit? $____



2 Teaching Math In 1970...

A logger sells a truckload of timber for $100.

His cost of production is 4/5 of the price, or $80.

What is his profit? $___



3 Teaching Math In 1990...

A logger sells a truckload of timber for $100.

His cost of production is $80.

Did he make a profit? __Yes or __No



4. Teaching Math In 2000...

A logger sells a truckload of timber for $100.

His cost of production is $80 and his profit is $20.

Your assignment: Underline the number 20.



5. Teaching Math In 2015...

A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the preservation of our woodlands.

He does this so he can make a profit of $20.

What do you think of this way of making a living?

Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes



6. Teaching Math in 2021...

Math is Racist.

Students no longer need any math skills to go to Graduate school.

2+2 = 4, or 22, or what ever you feel is correct.

There are no wrong answers, feel free to express your feelings e.g., anger, anxiety, inadequacy, helplessness etc.

Should you require debriefing at the conclusion of the exam there are Counsellors available to assist you to adjust back into the real world.

[Urban Cowboy]

So sad yet so true.

Confiscating one of their phones these days is equivalent to removing their brain.