"Free" Contraception

[Bsuds]

You want to have sex but don't want to get a woman pregnant, have a vasectomy. I had mine 40 years ago. Basically painless. Usually. Problem solved. It is also reversable usually.

My Dr told me it was painless. When I saw him after he had his vasectomy, his first words to me were ("I lied, didn't I")

[butcher99]

You want to have sex but don't want to get a woman pregnant, have a vasectomy. I had mine 40 years ago. Basically painless. Usually. Problem solved. It is also reversable usually.

My Dr told me it was painless. When I saw him after he had his vasectomy, his first words to me were ("I lied, didn't I")

I went back to work the next day. Sometimes it isn't but it is nothing you cannot put up with.

[JLives]

My dad has heard the story 1000 times from both EXs and while they were together, you missed the ex part, they are divorced in seperate homes on either side of my folks home. It's a crazy story.

Also, condoms are 98% effective lol.

Depends on which stats you look at. The stat I looked up first said the figure I quoted. Planned parenthood says this. "in real life condoms are about 87% effective — that means about 13 out of 100 people who use condoms as their only birth control method will get pregnant each year."

Yep. 13% is high. I got pregnant with my first while on the pill. Birth control works most of the time but not always. I've had a tubal ligation since. Part of my fallopian tubes were removed and the ends cauterized. 1 in 1000 women conceive a child after that surgery. That's insane to me. Their tubes will regenerate. Our bodies are incredible.

[Mazdatruck]

The answer for you is obvious. You want to have sex but don't want to get a woman pregnant, have a vasectomy. I had mine 40 years ago. Basically painless. Usually. Problem solved. It is also reversable usually.

If we removed all the safeguards that exist only for women in this arena we'd have more accountability and therefore much less single-parent-social-ills plaguing our streets.

The argument/threat goes if we start holding women accountable like men for their choices we'd also have much more illegal abortions and child abandonments. What does that say about "taking responsibility"? It's literally baked into the cake that women will opt-out of their responsibilities one way or the other and we wrote laws and legally excuse women so they don't chose the other way and dump their babies down wells. Isn't that swell?

We literally wrote laws that empower "deadbeat moms" so if they want to opt out of the responsibility they dont end up dumping babies, becoming criminals and screwing their lives up in the Courts...while at the same enforcing laws on "deadbeat dads" who we do make criminals out of and screw their lives up if they try to opt-out of responsibility in the way women do.

[countmeout]

My dad has heard the story 1000 times from both EXs and while they were together, you missed the ex part, they are divorced in seperate homes on either side of my folks home. It's a crazy story.

Also, condoms are 98% effective lol.

Depends on which stats you look at. The stat I looked up first said the figure I quoted. Planned parenthood says this. "in real life condoms are about 87% effective — that means about 13 out of 100 people who use condoms as their only birth control method will get pregnant each year."

Used them more than I care to discuss here. 100% effective.

[butcher99]

Depends on which stats you look at. The stat I looked up first said the figure I quoted. Planned parenthood says this. "in real life condoms are about 87% effective — that means about 13 out of 100 people who use condoms as their only birth control method will get pregnant each year."

Used them more than I care to discuss here. 100% effective.

Luck of the draw. Thats all it is. 100% effective if nobody gets pregnant. but over all? 87% or less or more depending on whos stats you read.

[Glacier]

Yep. 13% is high. I got pregnant with my first while on the pill. Birth control works most of the time but not always. I've had a tubal ligation since. Part of my fallopian tubes were removed and the ends cauterized. 1 in 1000 women conceive a child after that surgery. That's insane to me. Their tubes will regenerate. Our bodies are incredible.

My wife has a sister 14 years younger. It took 14 years, but those tubes grew back!

[JLives]

Yep. 13% is high. I got pregnant with my first while on the pill. Birth control works most of the time but not always. I've had a tubal ligation since. Part of my fallopian tubes were removed and the ends cauterized. 1 in 1000 women conceive a child after that surgery. That's insane to me. Their tubes will regenerate. Our bodies are incredible.

My wife has a sister 14 years younger. It took 14 years, but those tubes grew back!

Yes! And I'm high risk because I had the surgery before 30. No thank you

[butcher99]

My wife has a sister 14 years younger. It took 14 years, but those tubes grew back!

Yes! And I'm high risk because I had the surgery before 30. No thank you

I am assuming you are a man. A tubal ligation can grow back together. VERY unlikely. The odds of a vasecomy reversing itself if done properly are negligable. But not zero.
If you don't get it done and you don't want kids, then, they chances of you ending up with more kids is a lot higher than the chances of the tubes growing back together. In the case of a properly done vasectomy the tubes are cut at both ends and then tied off.

[countmeout]

No one is trapped. The woman is also on the hook. The man does not pay the entire cost. It is split. You were there at the start so you are considered partially responsible.

Lol, the women will win the child care case, dad will be lucky to get weekends. Then he'll fork over $1,000 a month to the mom for child support. If you were married/common law and the bread winner then alimony up to 50% of your income. So she takes the kids and your cash.

You really have to trust who you get into bed with as a man, the women holds the cards at the end. To claim otherwise is silly.

[butcher99]

No one is trapped. The woman is also on the hook. The man does not pay the entire cost. It is split. You were there at the start so you are considered partially responsible.

Lol, the women will win the child care case, dad will be lucky to get weekends. Then he'll fork over $1,000 a month to the mom for child support. If you were married/common law and the bread winner then alimony up to 50% of your income. So she takes the kids and your cash.

You really have to trust who you get into bed with as a man, the women holds the cards at the end. To claim otherwise is silly.

You don't want kids, get a vasectomy. If you can prove you would be as good a dad as the woman is a mom you can get joint custody. This is not the 1960s. Now you pay your share of upkeep if the kids are yours. But whatever the outcome, if you are the biological father the law is clear. You are there for the conception you are there for the duration even if only financially. You knew going into the act there was a possibility of the outcome. Time to man up and face the responsibility.

[Mazdatruck]

You don't want kids, get a vasectomy. If you can prove you would be as good a dad as the woman is a mom you can get joint custody. This is not the 1960s. Now you pay your share of upkeep if the kids are yours. But whatever the outcome, if you are the biological father the law is clear. You are there for the conception you are there for the duration even if only financially. You knew going into the act there was a possibility of the outcome. Time to man up and face the responsibility.

Women that give their babies up for adoption or kill their babies in utero should have to man up!

[butcher99]

You don't want kids, get a vasectomy. If you can prove you would be as good a dad as the woman is a mom you can get joint custody. This is not the 1960s. Now you pay your share of upkeep if the kids are yours. But whatever the outcome, if you are the biological father the law is clear. You are there for the conception you are there for the duration even if only financially. You knew going into the act there was a possibility of the outcome. Time to man up and face the responsibility.

Women that give their babies up for adoption or kill their babies in utero should have to man up!

and yet here you are posting over and over that men should not have to help raise those children that they helped spawn.
At least free contraception will help save women from having to share parenting duties with people who think as you do.

[Mazdatruck]

Women that give their babies up for adoption or kill their babies in utero should have to man up!

and yet here you are posting over and over that men should not have to help raise those children that they helped spawn.
At least free contraception will help save women from having to share parenting duties with people who think as you do.

Why should men have to man up when women can just drop their babies off in a dumpster and go to the bar the very same night?

[countmeout]

You don't want kids, get a vasectomy. If you can prove you would be as good a dad as the woman is a mom you can get joint custody. This is not the 1960s. Now you pay your share of upkeep if the kids are yours. But whatever the outcome, if you are the biological father the law is clear. You are there for the conception you are there for the duration even if only financially. You knew going into the act there was a possibility of the outcome. Time to man up and face the responsibility.

Gotcha, one sided.