Traffic Fines based on Income

[Richadio]

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/413792 ... nforcement
New West backs a new approach to BC traffic enforcement.

I like this idea.
A guy driving a beater, earning minimum wage, fined for speeding gets a $167 fine. Or whatever it is. This fine hurts.

A guy driving a half million dollar supercar, earning high six figures annually gets the same fine. This fine, meh, pocket change.

Should the province consider this?

So what about the guy driving the high end sports car has just received his first speeding ticket in his entire driving record but the guy driving the beater working minimum wage drives like an idiot, speeds all the time and is reckless. The beater driver should get off easy you're saying because he works minimum wage jobs?
If you can afford to drive, buy insurance etc. you can afford the fine that warrants your violation.

[Babba_not_Gump]

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[Ken7]

I think the way to deal with this is through insurance.

Yes, I agree a $2,000.00 dollar penalty for doing double plus the speed limit may not bother some. When JOHN DOE gets the warning via registered mail from ICBC that one more point, YOU WALK as your privileges are removed.

I think that is the only way to slow them up!!

[my5cents]

I think the way to deal with this is through insurance.

Yes, I agree a $2,000.00 dollar penalty for doing double plus the speed limit may not bother some. When JOHN DOE gets the warning via registered mail from ICBC that one more point, YOU WALK as your privileges are removed.

I think that is the only way to slow them up!!

I agree with you Ken7. The great equalizer is the revocation of ones license. So basically the system we have. I have to correct you, though, the cancellation or suspension of ones DL for accruing too many violations is the job of the Office of the Superintendent of Motor Vehicles (OSMV), not ICBC (insurance). ICBC does the bidding of the OSMV but the OSMV makes the decisions.

The way ICBC is entwinned in the licensing system it's hard to figure where ICBC starts and ends. ICBC does most of the licensing functions and administers the additional premiums, but the actual license suspensions come from the OSMV. Now if you don't pay your assessments or your tickets, ICBC will refuse to renew you license because of the debt so essentially suspending your driving privilege's, but technically just holding back renewal until you come across with the cash.

[Ken7]

I think the way to deal with this is through insurance.

Yes, I agree a $2,000.00 dollar penalty for doing double plus the speed limit may not bother some. When JOHN DOE gets the warning via registered mail from ICBC that one more point, YOU WALK as your privileges are removed.

I think that is the only way to slow them up!!

I agree with you Ken7. The great equalizer is the revocation of ones license. So basically the system we have. I have to correct you, though, the cancellation or suspension of ones DL for accruing too many violations is the job of the Office of the Superintendent of Motor Vehicles (OSMV), not ICBC (insurance). ICBC does the bidding of the OSMV but the OSMV makes the decisions.

The way ICBC is entwinned in the licensing system it's hard to figure where ICBC starts and ends. ICBC does most of the licensing functions and administers the additional premiums, but the actual license suspensions come from the OSMV. Now if you don't pay your assessments or your tickets, ICBC will refuse to renew you license because of the debt so essentially suspending your driving privilege's, but technically just holding back renewal until you come across with the cash.

End of day ICBC will refuse your renewal.

Same thing right...it doesn't mater if the Superintendent is Tommy Jones or John Smith. You won't have the privilege to drive.

[spooker]

I agree with you Ken7. The great equalizer is the revocation of ones license. So basically the system we have. I have to correct you, though, the cancellation or suspension of ones DL for accruing too many violations is the job of the Office of the Superintendent of Motor Vehicles (OSMV), not ICBC (insurance). ICBC does the bidding of the OSMV but the OSMV makes the decisions.

The way ICBC is entwinned in the licensing system it's hard to figure where ICBC starts and ends. ICBC does most of the licensing functions and administers the additional premiums, but the actual license suspensions come from the OSMV. Now if you don't pay your assessments or your tickets, ICBC will refuse to renew you license because of the debt so essentially suspending your driving privilege's, but technically just holding back renewal until you come across with the cash.

End of day ICBC will refuse your renewal.

Same thing right...it doesn't mater if the Superintendent is Tommy Jones or John Smith. You won't have the privilege to drive.

And how many are really going to care if they have a valid licence or not?

[my5cents]

And how many are really going to care if they have a valid licence or not?

The ones that want to be insured ? The ones that don't want their vehicle to be impounded when they get caught driving w/o a license.

[Ken7]

End of day ICBC will refuse your renewal.

Same thing right...it doesn't mater if the Superintendent is Tommy Jones or John Smith. You won't have the privilege to drive.

And how many are really going to care if they have a valid licence or not?

If you are racing around in a $350,000.00 vehicle, your auto insurance would be void if you got in a wreck. These cool tools don't always have a passenger to switch with when on the highway and crash!

[oldtrucker]

One time in the late 80's I was driving a Camaro on hwy 16 midway between Edson and Hinton at 220 and got pulled over by the cop going the opposite direction.
Cop says "flying a little low today, I'll need to see your pilots license. "
I gave him my pilots license. That he didn't expect. Good thing he did have a sense of humour.
No ticket. Verbal warning.

[Ken7]

One time in the late 80's I was driving a Camaro on hwy 16 midway between Edson and Hinton at 220 and got pulled over by the cop going the opposite direction.
Cop says "flying a little low today, I'll need to see your pilots license. "
I gave him my pilots license. That he didn't expect. Good thing he did have a sense of humour.
No ticket. Verbal warning.

What else could one do!! Along with travel safe...there maybe more of us out..wink.

[spooker]

And how many are really going to care if they have a valid licence or not?

If you are racing around in a $350,000.00 vehicle, your auto insurance would be void if you got in a wreck. These cool tools don't always have a passenger to switch with when on the highway and crash!

Someone driving a $350,000 vehicle who loses their licence is already proven to have more money than sense ...

It also goes back to how we've convinced ourselves we are required to have a car in this day and age ... or we don't leave ourselves any choices because we have easy access to a vehicle ...

How many of us can imagine how we would manage if we didn't have our licence?

[lesliepaul]

End of day ICBC will refuse your renewal.

Same thing right...it doesn't mater if the Superintendent is Tommy Jones or John Smith. You won't have the privilege to drive.

..........."right".

[Babba_not_Gump]

This is interesting. There may some good with this after all.

A wealthy driver has been fined 121,000 euros ($174,293 CAD) for speeding in Finland, where such penalties are calculated on the basis of an offender’s income.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/dri ... adlineNews

[Bsuds]

One time in the late 80's I was driving a Camaro on hwy 16 midway between Edson and Hinton at 220 and got pulled over by the cop going the opposite direction.
Cop says "flying a little low today, I'll need to see your pilots license. "
I gave him my pilots license. That he didn't expect. Good thing he did have a sense of humour.
No ticket. Verbal warning.

That would be funny!

[oldtrucker]

Speed limits should be based on skill level almost like you get a 40% discount. If your average skill, you can't exceed the limit. For those that have advanced licenses on various machines should be able to exceed speed limits by how many advanced points they have.
Yeah, I know, crazy idea and it reeks of frustration cuz... everyone drives in slooowww motion from my perspective.