Three years after...Dr. Henry weeps

[Urban Cowboy]

Most people with even half a brain should be smart enough to admit that if there had been NO vaccinations done for Covid 19, the world may have been in a better place than it is today. Shouldn't take a rocket scientist to grasp that fact.
As our once esteemed Premier said "Fatalities are a part of life" and can be applied to this matter.

No facts, no information, just a conspiracy opinion. Clearly you're smart enough to understand, right?

Doesn't take a "rocket scientist" (hint play Kerbal space program) to understand virology.... But why discuss facts, right? The anti vaxers are clearly correct with their decades of training on the subject....

No getting through to the goofs, so may as well not even waste time trying sadly.

[countmeout]

No getting through to the goofs, so may as well not even waste time trying sadly.

Meh, I don't let it bother me. Provides some comic relief to my days until it dives too far off the deep end

But yeah, best to ignore and carry on!

[hozzle]

*removed*

[countmeout]

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[common_sense_guy]

Weeping because she knows that with a change of gubment in Ottawa in a couple of years that she'll be charged with crimes against humanity and she'll be sentenced to hard time.

Give me a break. You don't have a single foot planted in reality obviously. For the record I don't like Bonnie Henry at all. But I'm not going to make a stupid asinine comment like that. Crimes against humanity LOL little bit dramatic isn't it.
Yeah she made some stupid choices and continues to do so. But your comment shows just how clueless people are with how the world works

[Jlabute]

Dr. Henry, this makes me cry.

You're only a power-hungry fraud. No one will cry for you or with you. Bring back the nurses and other staff.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/4 ... d-ignored-

[Fancy]

Dr. Henry, this makes me cry.

You're only a power-hungry fraud. No one will cry for you or with you. ....

There will be many people who won't agree with that opinion and certainly there are those on her side.

[Thinktank]

Database Dix says:

In response to request for comment, the B.C. Ministry of Health said "in order to protect the province’s most vulnerable and the overall health-care system, COVID-19 vaccination requirements for health-care system workers continue to be in place."

So a healthy person must get a vaccine to "protect" a vulnerable person. How? When the vaccine wears off in three weeks and all those vaccinated nurses are working in hospitals long after the vaccine wears off. Denmark already banned the clot shot.

The trajectory of the pandemic over the next few months is uncertain as there is still significant spread of the COVID-19 virus in the province and around the world."

So, a nurse in BC must get a vaccine because someone around the world got covid?
Sounds like Databse Dix and Big Pharma Henry are just making stuff up. They're just lying continually.

Someone on this forum said "it doesn't make sense. It makes a lot of sense. Forcing nurses to get a vaccine is the best advertising you can get FREE FREE FREE SAVING $$$$$$. When the media can say 100% of NBA players got the vaccine, 100% of nurses got the vaccine - THAT IS THE BEST MARKETING BIG PHARMA COULD EVER GET ABSOLUTELY FREE and all it took was one little corrupt diabetes patient - Adrian Dix to do it.

Adrian, stop it now. Stop destroying people's lives. Leave the decision of what goes into someone's body up to the individual and keep your nose out of it.



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[Jlabute]

Dr. Henry, this makes me cry.

You're only a power-hungry fraud. No one will cry for you or with you.

There will be many people who won't agree with that opinion and certainly there are those on her side.

Yes, that is my opinion, and a lot of people agree while others won't. Glibly destroying the hard-earned careers of thousands of skilled health-care workers is too high a cost compared to a small unknown, unsubstantiated, and unqualified risk, and their treatment after-the-fact is cruelly punitive. In the lack of knowledge, fear of the unknown promotes hatred towards fellow Canadians. Like climate change, activist idiots proclaim coming disasters and politicians just follow along with 'the science' which in hindsight is working out to no better than opinion. Thankfully, some of these workers have options in provinces that have a better balance of politics and humanity.

The fall-out in health-care will affect BC for decades. Outsiders observe us as increasingly totalitarian, and not far away from how citizens in China and Australia were treated. China had extreme levels of COVID despite their harsh zero-COVID policies. In retrospect, we call China and Australia wrong.

[Fancy]

There will be many people who won't agree with that opinion and certainly there are those on her side.

...Glibly destroying the hard-earned careers of thousands of skilled health-care workers ...

I didn't see anything "glib" about what was done. There were obviously meetings held that the public wouldn't have been privy to.

[rustled]

There will be many people who won't agree with that opinion and certainly there are those on her side.

Yes, that is my opinion, and a lot of people agree while others won't. Glibly destroying the hard-earned careers of thousands of skilled health-care workers is too high a cost compared to a small unknown, unsubstantiated, and unqualified risk, and their treatment after-the-fact is cruelly punitive. In the lack of knowledge, fear of the unknown promotes hatred towards fellow Canadians. Like climate change, activist idiots proclaim coming disasters and politicians just follow along with 'the science' which in hindsight is working out to no better than opinion. Thankfully, some of these workers have options in provinces that have a better balance of politics and humanity.

The fall-out in health-care will affect BC for decades. Outsiders observe us as increasingly totalitarian, and not far away from how citizens in China and Australia were treated. China had extreme levels of COVID despite their harsh zero-COVID policies. In retrospect, we call China and Australia wrong.

It's not just the healthcare workers. Many of us lost a great deal of income during the pandemic because of mandates and measures - and worse, we lost precious time with people who needed our presence, time we can never recoup. The very few people who made decisions that cost many of us so dearly are unlikely ever to be held accountable.

I found it interesting that when the Telegraph went through the emails of one of "the few" making decisions for the UK, there was no real discussion of risk/benefit, no real consideration of whether or not the harms done by the mandates they imposed were genuinely necessary. I suspect the same was true here in BC, where the few people responsible for doing the right thing during the pandemic failed to seriously consider whether or not what they were doing to us with their mandates was actually necessary.

I have some sympathy for Bonnie Henry, though. It's not often people in that position have to weigh the long-term consequences of socially and economically destructive mandates against mandates that might save lives.

IMO she was among the health authorities who panicked because people were dying from a "new" virus, and failed to think seriously about the implications of what they were doing as precautionary measures - and then doubled down to avoid admitting overreactions that were doing more harm than necessary. It's human nature not to want to admit having got it wrong, and having done harm to people "for the greater good" - especially when it becomes evident some of those harms were not necessary after all.

And yes, the negative implications for public health in BC will be with us for a long time to come.

[Fancy]

You're speculating and making assumptions on how Dr. Henry thinks. Take away hindsight and go back to what she was dealing with at the time.

[rustled]

Yup, I'm speculating that what went on in BC wasn't a lot different from what went on in the UK. I'm speculating - with empathy - that she panicked (which seems likely given the 180 on masks). I'm speculating that she may have doubled down, because despite what we have learned about the vaccines and masks she has not rescinded the mandate for medical workers, and we continue to waste PPE in medical facilities.

I'm basically speculating that she is an imperfect human who faced a huge challenge and was pressured in ways we don't yet understand to impose mandates that have caused us significant harm. I feel sorry for her, and for those harmed by the mandates she imposed, and for the harms done by the continuation of mandates that make no real sense.

[Thinktank]

It's not just the healthcare workers. Many of us lost a great deal of income during the pandemic because of mandates and measures - and worse, we lost precious time with people who needed our presence, time we can never recoup. The very few people who made decisions that cost many of us so dearly are unlikely ever to be held accountable.

Cruel is the best word to describe what was done to a lot of people by the liars who profited financially.

Felony Joly went to the Munich Security Conference and said "Canadians mental health is something I'm looking at"

But she said - get this - our winters here are cold in January and February - that causes mental health problems.
What weird and cruel people we have governing us. No wonder Bonnie is weeping - she's weird. And cruel.



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[rustled]

It's not just the healthcare workers. Many of us lost a great deal of income during the pandemic because of mandates and measures - and worse, we lost precious time with people who needed our presence, time we can never recoup. The very few people who made decisions that cost many of us so dearly are unlikely ever to be held accountable.

Cruel is the best word to describe what was done to a lot of people by the liars who profited financially.

Felony Joly went to the Munich Security Conference and said "Canadians mental health is something I'm looking at"

But she said - get this - our winters here are cold in January and February - that causes mental health problems.
What weird and cruel people we have governing us. No wonder Bonnie is weeping - she's weird. And cruel.



search YT - Foreign Minister Melanie Joly discusses vaccine protester arrests in Canada

I agree there was significant cruelty. I don't think our politicians or health authorities were intentionally cruel, though.

It seems to me many were unmindful of some of the harms done, and some will be grappling with their part in it. Wondering if they were too quick to submit to pressures, too ready to take information at face value, to quick to share bad advice, too willing to overlook the cruelty of what they were doing "for the greater good", etc.

IMO, not one of us would want to be in their shoes.

Does make one wonder, though, why any of them would continue to maintain mandates despite knowing what we know now.