BC Election 2024

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rustled wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:15 pm The belief in green energy "solutions" is NOT science. Those policies are based on that belief.
No, and the effort to use a personal attack here shows there's a problem addressing the facts.

Clearly, the anti-Conservative mindset relies on the use of bigotry and stereotyping - on "making it personal" to avoid acknowledging there's a serious problem with rejecting a party because of some of its members beliefs only when it suits one's personal beliefs and partisan biases.
Nope. Not a religion. Now you're showing your colours of being anti-science. I have no qualms with my approach to deciding on which party I might vote for. I have no qualms removing choices based on what I think. These are all the same things you can do too.
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rustled wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:16 pm Whereas earth worshipers and climate doomsayers have found their homes in other parties, where they HAVE been bringing those beliefs into government and power, and they ARE forcing their beliefs on everybody else. This fearmongering about what the BC Conservatives might do, however unlikely, is extremely hypocritical.
Nope. Not a religion. I have no qualms with my approach to deciding on which party I might vote for. I have no qualms removing choices based on what I think. These are all the same things you can do too.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:11 pm
I'll say it again...as long as his religious beliefs aren't being forced on all of us then I don't care what he believes in. That goes the same for any member of any conservative party. Bring those beliefs into government and power then I have a problem. The basic problem here is that the social conservative, christian nationalist, evangelical, fundamentalist kinds of believers wish to force their beliefs on everybody else. And they find a home in conservative parties.
So I'll say it again. The NDP aren't but you say the BC United and BC Cons ARE forcing their beliefs on you.

Please name them.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:24 pm
rustled wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:15 pm The belief in green energy "solutions" is NOT science. Those policies are based on that belief.
No, and the effort to use a personal attack here shows there's a problem addressing the facts.

Clearly, the anti-Conservative mindset relies on the use of bigotry and stereotyping - on "making it personal" to avoid acknowledging there's a serious problem with rejecting a party because of some of its members beliefs only when it suits one's personal beliefs and partisan biases.
Nope. Not a religion.
A belief. As was clearly stated.
LovemyBolt wrote:Now you're showing your colours of being anti-science.
An accusation - personal, AND incorrect.
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Veovis wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:24 pm0

Like how a tax can control the weather? That kind of imaginary thing?

Why is your invisible man in the sky any different than others.
I haven't heard that term in a while. Reminds me of someone in the old bickering category.
I have no belief in any such "invisible man in the sky". Zero. Therefor there is nothing to be differentiated.
Shall I remind you too that it was Harpo that brought in this tax?
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rustled wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:16 pm
LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:11 pm

I'll say it again...as long as his religious beliefs aren't being forced on all of us then I don't care what he believes in. That goes the same for any member of any conservative party. Bring those beliefs into government and power then I have a problem. The basic problem here is that the social conservative, christian nationalist, evangelical, fundamentalist kinds of believers wish to force their beliefs on everybody else. And they find a home in conservative parties.
Whereas earth worshipers and climate doomsayers have found their homes in other parties, where they HAVE been bringing those beliefs into government and power, and they ARE forcing their beliefs on everybody else. This fearmongering about what the BC Conservatives might do, however unlikely, is extremely hypocritical.
:up: And how extremely hypocritical this has become. Its OK for liberalism to force its beliefs into our school system. To manipulate the minds of students that only want to learn specific education to use in a career. To enter every part of our lives with their woke liberalist opinions and propaganda's. Really, now a complaint of religious beliefs being a worry to some claiming a political party isnt the place to push ones belief and yet the current parties have their whole platform based on this tactic.
Never in history have we had a party so adamant about forcing their beliefs upon the people and now we are listening to this.
Sorry Liberals, you lost all right to challenge anyone on principals of morals and ethics.
Redeem yourselves...
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:25 pm
rustled wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:16 pm Whereas earth worshipers and climate doomsayers have found their homes in other parties, where they HAVE been bringing those beliefs into government and power, and they ARE forcing their beliefs on everybody else. This fearmongering about what the BC Conservatives might do, however unlikely, is extremely hypocritical.
Nope. Not a religion.
A belief. As was clearly stated. The bigotry of the stereotyping required to reject only the BC Conservatives for what some of their members believe, regardless of what other parties actually DO because of what some of their members believe, is obvious.
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Veovis wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:26 pm
LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:11 pm
I'll say it again...as long as his religious beliefs aren't being forced on all of us then I don't care what he believes in. That goes the same for any member of any conservative party. Bring those beliefs into government and power then I have a problem. The basic problem here is that the social conservative, christian nationalist, evangelical, fundamentalist kinds of believers wish to force their beliefs on everybody else. And they find a home in conservative parties.
So I'll say it again. The NDP aren't but you say the BC United and BC Cons ARE forcing their beliefs on you.

Please name them.
I didn't say the Uniteds are. No one particular person specifically affected me personally. It's that that part of a conservative party is inclined to do so that I won't vote for. Religious beliefs.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:04 pm
??? I'm not running. What power? I don't cast everyone who disagrees with me as being religious. Just that far right element of any conservative party that becomes home to those kinds of people that would force their beliefs on everybody else.
Beliefs are different from opinions.
My second post in this thread way back on page 1 said why I would not vote for any conservative party. I'm not here offering any platform for election. I'm not running.
But people you support are running, so you are trying a smear campaign to ensure they get re-elected. And you just made up out of thin air what the BC Conservatives stand for without providing a single example. You can't even name a single policy they have that you consider "religious." That's imaginary beliefs right there.

BTW, the policies to address climate change have nothing to do with science. They are value judgements that balance the environment, economics, individual well-being, etc. To pretend otherwise, is just another one of your religious beliefs as you would call it.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:24 pm I have no qualms with my approach to deciding on which party I might vote for. I have no qualms removing choices based on what I think. These are all the same things you can do too.
And that is your right to have your personal BELIEFS. I support that right. People are allowed to choose what they believe in. But this is all you have presented here. Your beleif...aka faith that the others are bad for imagined reasons.

I love it when an NDP'er comes in here and outright brags they have no qualms about the fact they use bigotry, stereotyping and hatred to make their decisions about others. Reminds of what that part is really made up of.

I support every right they have to do so, but therefore cannot support them for doing so.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:32 pm
Veovis wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:26 pm

So I'll say it again. The NDP aren't but you say the BC United and BC Cons ARE forcing their beliefs on you.

Please name them.
I didn't say the Uniteds are. No one particular person specifically affected me personally. It's that that part of a conservative party is inclined to do so that I won't vote for. Religious beliefs.
This post ^^uses anti-Christian stereotyping and bigotry to fearmonger about the BC Conservatives.
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liisgo wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:30 pm :up: And how extremely hypocritical this has become. Its OK for liberalism to force its beliefs into our school system. To manipulate the minds of students that only want to learn specific education to use in a career. To enter every part of our lives with their woke liberalist opinions and propaganda's. Really, now a complaint of religious beliefs being a worry to some claiming a political party isnt the place to push ones belief and yet the current parties have their whole platform based on this tactic.
Never in history have we had a party so adamant about forcing their beliefs upon the people and now we are listening to this.
Sorry Liberals, you lost all right to challenge anyone on principals of morals and ethics.
Redeem yourselves...
Ah. More colours. And more dog whistles. So you think education is merely to churn out drones to do tasks as slaves. You don't think that education means teaching about all aspects of life. Nice education system. Yes sir sir how high.
So you're speaking on behalf of all students that all they want to do is be a slave of one task.
Again, not religion.
Woke tells me you prefer to remain asleep to culture and society. That you only want a static 50's tv style mono-culture and never to change and evolve. Enjoy the sand.
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Glacier wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:33 pm
LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:04 pm
??? I'm not running. What power? I don't cast everyone who disagrees with me as being religious. Just that far right element of any conservative party that becomes home to those kinds of people that would force their beliefs on everybody else.
Beliefs are different from opinions.
My second post in this thread way back on page 1 said why I would not vote for any conservative party. I'm not here offering any platform for election. I'm not running.
But people you support are running, so you are trying a smear campaign to ensure they get re-elected. And you just made up out of thin air what the BC Conservatives stand for without providing a single example. You can't even name a single policy they have that you consider "religious." That's imaginary beliefs right there.

BTW, the policies to address climate change have nothing to do with science. They are value judgements that balance the environment, economics, individual well-being, etc. To pretend otherwise, is just another one of your religious beliefs as you would call it.
Nope. Not religious. lol not about science... lol More anti-science.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:43 pm
Nope. Not religious. lol not about science... lol More anti-science.
So can't even name a single religious belief you're scared of from the BC Conservatives. Interesting, that's just like the guys who blame everything on "The Jews" but can't actually articulate who those Jews are or what they will do.
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Glacier wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 1:54 pm
So can't even name a single religious belief you're scared of from the BC Conservatives. Interesting, that's just like the guys who blame everything on "The Jews" but can't actually articulate who those Jews are or what they will do.
I long ago did in this thread. I know, this thread keeps going. Anti-choicers and issues surrounding SOGI for starters.

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