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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 24th, 2024, 7:50 am
Gone_Fishin wrote: Mar 24th, 2024, 7:26 am
You could but you'd be lying.

And you wouldn't lie. Nor would I. That's why I stand by my statement, as there's no other logical deduction from what the NDP Liberals are doing to us.
That's purely coming from your political standpoint. I don't share it. Nor would I be lying. Mulroney and Harpo presided over large increases in national debt too. The pandemic continues to have a huge effect on all responsible governments. That southern president at the time twiddled his thumbs while his voters died. A fascist conservative and that party still kowtowing to him. They're all fascists. This behaviour has been bleeding up to Canada for the last while. I find it abhorrent disgusting behaviour.
You just used Harper as a reference for comparisons. Can you provide us with any numbers you would like that you are using for your opinion. I'll start with a few. Ethic breaches, Trudeau holds the record for this. Balanced budgets, Harper 3, trudeau none. Investigations and with holding documents from them, all trudeaus win. World wide non confidence of our currency, trudeau wins here as well. Much higher with Harper. How about the worst economic forecast for economy ever, by OECD , Trudeau wins here again, achieving canada the lowest predicted growth rate of all G20 countries.
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liisgo wrote: Mar 24th, 2024, 12:33 pm
You just used Harper as a reference for comparisons. Can you provide us with any numbers you would like that you are using for your opinion. I'll start with a few. Ethic breaches, Trudeau holds the record for this. Balanced budgets, Harper 3, trudeau none. Investigations and with holding documents from them, all trudeaus win. World wide non confidence of our currency, trudeau wins here as well. Much higher with Harper. How about the worst economic forecast for economy ever, by OECD , Trudeau wins here again, achieving canada the lowest predicted growth rate of all G20 countries.
Opinions are failing us.
Sure, from the cons favourite source too:
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/d ... pdf#page=6
See those blue lines shooting up at a high angle on the chart?
And look at that, a Liberal government brought it back down some. Then another conservative government (Harpo) and up it goes.
I grant that the chart is only to 2019 but it illustrates my point that con governments also crank up national debt.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 24th, 2024, 12:40 pm

Sure, from the cons favourite source too:
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/d ... pdf#page=6
See those blue lines shooting up at a high angle on the chart?
And look at that, a Liberal government brought it back down some. Then another conservative government (Harpo) and up it goes.
I grant that the chart is only to 2019 but it illustrates my point that con governments also crank up national debt.
No one knows who "Harpo" is - it that Oprah spelled backwards?
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 24th, 2024, 12:40 pm
liisgo wrote: Mar 24th, 2024, 12:33 pm
You just used Harper as a reference for comparisons. Can you provide us with any numbers you would like that you are using for your opinion. I'll start with a few. Ethic breaches, Trudeau holds the record for this. Balanced budgets, Harper 3, trudeau none. Investigations and with holding documents from them, all trudeaus win. World wide non confidence of our currency, trudeau wins here as well. Much higher with Harper. How about the worst economic forecast for economy ever, by OECD , Trudeau wins here again, achieving canada the lowest predicted growth rate of all G20 countries.
Opinions are failing us.
Sure, from the cons favourite source too:
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/d ... pdf#page=6
See those blue lines shooting up at a high angle on the chart?
And look at that, a Liberal government brought it back down some. Then another conservative government (Harpo) and up it goes.
I grant that the chart is only to 2019 but it illustrates my point that con governments also crank up national debt.
No one once said they didn't, the point is clear though that Trudeau has added more debt than any other in history. We now pay more in interest on it than we do on health care. First time ever matter of fact.
Your kidding though right, the reason one is supporting trudeau is because now adding massive record amounts of debt is OK. Nope, I'll vote on principal alone on this one. Trudeau has failed more than any PM in history, so there is no available reasoning to support any far left government. Even in BC.
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liisgo wrote: Mar 24th, 2024, 7:30 pm
LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 24th, 2024, 12:40 pm

Sure, from the cons favourite source too:
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/d ... pdf#page=6
See those blue lines shooting up at a high angle on the chart?
And look at that, a Liberal government brought it back down some. Then another conservative government (Harpo) and up it goes.
I grant that the chart is only to 2019 but it illustrates my point that con governments also crank up national debt.
No one once said they didn't, the point is clear though that Trudeau has added more debt than any other in history. We now pay more in interest on it than we do on health care. First time ever matter of fact.
Your kidding though right, the reason one is supporting trudeau is because now adding massive record amounts of debt is OK. Nope, I'll vote on principal alone on this one. Trudeau has failed more than any PM in history, so there is no available reasoning to support any far left government. Even in BC.
And I'm saying that for people to vilify the current government when their own "side" does the same thing is thoroughly hypocritical.
Using this source:
https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/c ... nment-debt
As I said, coinciding with the massive upheaval of a global pandemic. Earlier on up until then sure yeah a little more than what they started with. I guess governments could have just let people die and not go into debt. Seems to be heading on a downward trajectory for a little while though.
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Hey Bolt, why don't you come over to the CANADA board and defend your guy there.
I'm posting this from Traditional lands of the British Empire & the current Lands of The Dominion of Canada.
I also give thanks for this ethos richness bestowed on us via British Colonialism.

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Babba_not_Gump wrote: Mar 24th, 2024, 8:14 pm Hey Bolt, why don't you come over to the CANADA board and defend your guy there.
He's not "my guy". I vote ABC. Iirc I might have voted NDP last time. My vote doesn't count at all anyway when it's overrun with Con voters in Con ridings. But at least no Con will GET my vote. Ever.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 25th, 2024, 7:12 am
Babba_not_Gump wrote: Mar 24th, 2024, 8:14 pm Hey Bolt, why don't you come over to the CANADA board and defend your guy there.
. But at least no Con will GET my vote. Ever.
It's too bad people wouldn't vote for the party that's best for the people instead of hating on certain parties no matter what.
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77TA wrote: Mar 25th, 2024, 7:55 am
It's too bad people wouldn't vote for the party that's best for the people instead of hating on certain parties no matter what.
It's too bad people vote for fascist parties with far right wing christian nationalists and evangelicals in their tent who want to deny civil and human rights to the marginalized. Who are hypocrites with crime and punishment when they break laws themselves.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 25th, 2024, 8:06 am
77TA wrote: Mar 25th, 2024, 7:55 am
It's too bad people wouldn't vote for the party that's best for the people instead of hating on certain parties no matter what.
It's too bad people vote for fascist parties with far right wing christian nationalists and evangelicals in their tent who want to deny civil and human rights to the marginalized. Who are hypocrites with crime and punishment when they break laws themselves.
Ah yes , stick to the mantra of “ if you say it loud enough and often enough “ you may even convince yourself.
👀 LOOK> over there Harper
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George Orwell 1984 wrote: Mar 25th, 2024, 8:42 am
Ah yes , stick to the mantra of “ if you say it loud enough and often enough “ you may even convince yourself.
👀 LOOK> over there Harper
Pierre Polyester was Harpers attack dog. You will not convince me that there are no far right wing social conservative christian nationalist evangelicals in the Con party. They used to be their own little gang in the Reform party but then Peter McKay sold out the Progressive Conservative party to them. Remember the CRAP party? lol
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The vast majority of Canadians don’t agree with your “look over there trump” fear mongering .
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 25th, 2024, 8:49 am

Pierre Polyester
Who? Who are you talking about?
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77TA wrote: Mar 25th, 2024, 7:55 am
LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 25th, 2024, 7:12 am

. But at least no Con will GET my vote. Ever.
It's too bad people wouldn't vote for the party that's best for the people instead of hating on certain parties no matter what.
Exactly. It's interesting to see the mindset behind voting against one's own best interests, though. Meanwhile, back in BC, we have the option of voting for a party with "conservative" in its name or voting for a party that was too daft to fix what the voters were telling them was wrong with their party - unless we want to allow the NDP to continue the current march toward socialist dictatorship.
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rustled wrote: Mar 25th, 2024, 9:06 am
Exactly. It's interesting to see the mindset behind voting against one's own best interests, though. Meanwhile, back in BC, we have the option of voting for a party with "conservative" in its name or voting for a party that was too daft to fix what the voters were telling them was wrong with their party - unless we want to allow the NDP to continue the current march toward socialist dictatorship.
It's interesting to see the mindset of voters who vote for parties who have large contingents of members that will force the limitations of civil and human rights on the citizens due to their messed up religiously based belief systems.
The BC religious contingent is now in that BC con party. At least the Uniteds are just on the take with corporations, like always.
I will vote for parties that do actually put the citizens first. Not their own ideology or religion that suppresses the citizens.

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