BC Election 2024

[The Green Barbarian]

It doesn't make any sense to me to be more afraid of what the Christians in the BC Conservative Party might be able to do if they form government than we are of allowing the socialists in the BC NDP to continue expanding their increasingly dictatorial powers over municipal bodies we elect to manage local affairs, and over our individual rights.

[LovemyBolt]

It doesn't make any sense to me to be more afraid of what the Christians in the BC Conservative Party might be able to do if they form government than we are of allowing the socialists in the BC NDP to continue expanding their increasingly dictatorial powers over municipalities and over individual rights.

Again with the opinions being stated as fact. A municipality is a corporation under the province which is a corporation under Canada which is a corporation under Chuck.
I definitely see more evil from the religious having any more power than they already do.

[The Green Barbarian]

I definitely see more evil from the religious having any more power than they already do.

On this we can agree, the capacity for the NDP to be even more evil as they continue in power is unlimited, and it will be the Jewish people in this province who suffer the most.

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It doesn't make any sense to me to be more afraid of what the Christians in the BC Conservative Party might be able to do if they form government than we are of allowing the socialists in the BC NDP to continue expanding their increasingly dictatorial powers over municipalities and over individual rights.

Again with the opinions being stated as fact. A municipality is a corporation under the province which is a corporation under Canada which is a corporation under Chuck.
I definitely see more evil from the religious having any more power than they already do.

Fixating on the "evil" one believes one sees can easily blind one to what's actually going on. Our BC NDP government is dictating to municipalities, overruling their ability to manage zoning in accordance with constituents viewtopic.php?p=3312529#p3312529. Our BC NDP government is dictating to family physicians viewforum.php?f=26. Etc.

Being more afraid of what the Christian members of the BC Conservatives might - against all odds - manage to do is an example of fear-based ignorance.

[Veovis]

It doesn't make any sense to me to be more afraid of what the Christians in the BC Conservative Party might be able to do if they form government than we are of allowing the socialists in the BC NDP to continue expanding their increasingly dictatorial powers over municipalities and over individual rights.

Again with the opinions being stated as fact. A municipality is a corporation under the province which is a corporation under Canada which is a corporation under Chuck.
I definitely see more evil from the religious having any more power than they already do.

Also simply stating an opinion as fact.

[LovemyBolt]

Also simply stating an opinion as fact.

No, opinion. Note the use of the word -> I <-. If I said "There is definitely more" etc... then that would be attempting to state something as fact.

[Veovis]

For as long as social conservative christian nationalist evangelicals have a home somewhere, they will not get my vote. It's what they do. The party they adhere to may very well not proceed with their input but it's always there. Therefor that party will not get my vote.

That's as bigoted as stating that if you support a rainbow flag you will never get a vote. Both are ignorant bigoted opinions.

Can you list which faiths are allowed for politicians? Once you have now made the rules for which faiths can run for office can we then start on which races?

What determines your criteria as any less racist/bigoted as others that say the same things but about different groups.

The NDP under Horgan, had some modesty, but under Eby all thought has flown out the window and the spending has ramped up, with services provided crashing, and infrastructure build dead. Just like the 90's. It's time to get back on track, and Eby isn't capable.

[LovemyBolt]

Fixating on the "evil" one believes one sees can easily blind one to what's actually going on. Our BC NDP government is dictating to municipalities, overruling their ability to manage zoning in accordance with constituents viewtopic.php?p=3312529#p3312529. Our BC NDP government is dictating to family physicians viewforum.php?f=26. Etc.

Being more afraid of what the Christian members of the BC Conservatives might - against all odds - manage to do is an example of fear-based ignorance.

But municipalities are beholden to the province. The province "dictates" anyway through acts and regulations.

It's not against all odds. There are provinces that have more restrictions on reproductive rights than here. And religiously motivated. Quebec tries to claim to be all secular and all but they have more restrictions than other provinces. Guess why? That could all too easily spread to here. And that's just one topic.

[Veovis]

Also simply stating an opinion as fact.

No, opinion. Note the use of the word -> I <-. If I said "There is definitely more" etc... then that would be attempting to state something as fact.

Definitely an NDP' supporter through thick and thin, you get different ruled to live by than you require of others. Cute.

I can assure you, when you say "I definitely see" you most certainly don't and the way you talk, you sound like you most definitely have zero associations with any of the people you are besmirching and simply have that opinion from what you have been told.

That is how you come off sounding in my opinion though.

[LovemyBolt]

That's as bigoted as stating that if you support a rainbow flag you will never get a vote. Both are ignorant bigoted opinions.

Can you list which faiths are allowed for politicians? Once you have now made the rules for which faiths can run for office can we then start on which races?

What determines your criteria as any less racist/bigoted as others that say the same things but about different groups.

The NDP under Horgan, had some modesty, but under Eby all thought has flown out the window and the spending has ramped up, with services provided crashing, and infrastructure build dead. Just like the 90's. It's time to get back on track, and Eby isn't capable.

Everybody is free to associate however they like. I don't like the politicians and their parties being driven by any faith-based restrictions and so therefore I will not vote for them. They're free to continue to do what they wish as they did with the Reform party. But I'm not supporting it.
Those opposed to the symbolism of the rainbow flag can also just as freely not support that which is displaying the flag.
I am for the free conscience not constrained by any faith.
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How am I living under different rules? I don't want faith-based rules ruling over me. We have way too much of it already soaked in our culture.
Correct. Why would I associate with them when I don't adhere to their faith-based constraints more than we already do?
Nobody tells me any of this unless you count reading.

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Fixating on the "evil" one believes one sees can easily blind one to what's actually going on. Our BC NDP government is dictating to municipalities, overruling their ability to manage zoning in accordance with constituents viewtopic.php?p=3312529#p3312529. Our BC NDP government is dictating to family physicians viewforum.php?f=26. Etc.

Being more afraid of what the Christian members of the BC Conservatives might - against all odds - manage to do is an example of fear-based ignorance.

But municipalities are beholden to the province. The province "dictates" anyway through acts and regulations.

The BC NDP government has been overriding municipal authorities on what have always been municipal affairs without our permission AND by closing debate in the legislature, that's assumes is overstepping. They did the same to override the authorities of professional governing bodies, too. Ignoring this out of fear of what the Christian members of the BC Conservatives might do is fearful ignorance.

It's not against all odds. There are provinces that have more restrictions on reproductive rights than here. And religiously motivated. Quebec tries to claim to be all secular and all but they have more restrictions than other provinces. Guess why? That could all too easily spread to here. And that's just one topic.

No guessing to know this, though: even if the most Christian members of the BC Conservative Party convince the BC Conservative Party to take away our rights, the party cannot do what we won't allow them to do - take actions that limit our rights - without being booted at the next provincial election. It would be political suicide and they know this.

Whereas we ARE currently allowing the BC NDP to do what the BC NDP is actually doing - taking actions that limit our rights, and re-electing them will ensure more of same.

That really is the epitome of allowing fear-based ignorance to override common sense.

[LovemyBolt]

The BC NDP government has been overriding municipal authorities on what have always been municipal affairs without our permission AND by closing debate in the legislature, that's assumes is overstepping. They did the same to override the authorities of professional governing bodies, too. Ignoring this out of fear of what the Christian members of the BC Conservatives might do is fearful ignorance.

No guessing to know this, though: even if the most Christian members of the BC Conservative Party convince the BC Conservative Party to take away our rights, the party cannot do what we won't allow them to do - take actions that limit our rights - without being booted at the next provincial election. It would be political suicide and they know this.

Whereas we ARE currently allowing the BC NDP to do what the BC NDP is actually doing - taking actions that limit our rights, and re-electing them will ensure more of same.

That really is the epitome of allowing fear-based ignorance to override common sense.

I'll say it again, municipalities are beholden to the whims of the province.
I'll say this to your point. I don't agree with not grandfathering condos that were previously zoned and permitted to conduct short term rentals. Other illegal suites I have no problem clamping down on. Traffic and noise etc. But I live in my condo so it doesn't affect me. Possible decline in property values might affect me but that's indirect.
But long ago, a previous Socred/Liberal government simply tore up collective agreements that were dutifully legally executed. Gone. So we all have things that we disagree with about the government of the day. So vote. The younger you are the better.

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The BC NDP government has been overriding municipal authorities on what have always been municipal affairs without our permission AND by closing debate in the legislature, that's assumes is overstepping. They did the same to override the authorities of professional governing bodies, too. Ignoring this out of fear of what the Christian members of the BC Conservatives might do is fearful ignorance.

No guessing to know this, though: even if the most Christian members of the BC Conservative Party convince the BC Conservative Party to take away our rights, the party cannot do what we won't allow them to do - take actions that limit our rights - without being booted at the next provincial election. It would be political suicide and they know this.

Whereas we ARE currently allowing the BC NDP to do what the BC NDP is actually doing - taking actions that limit our rights, and re-electing them will ensure more of same.

That really is the epitome of allowing fear-based ignorance to override common sense.

I'll say it again, municipalities are beholden to the whims of the province.

Say it all you like. It doesn't change reality. Just as the provinces have jurisdiction over provincial affairs (as Alberta had to remind Ottawa), municipalities have jurisdiction over municipal affairs. We get the democracy we deserve, and if folk honestly think a provincial government can at whim go ahead and usurp municipal authority, we really are far too stupid for our own good.

In the upcoming election, we get to decide whether or not we're ok with the BC NDP taking authority away from municipally elected bodies, professional bodies, and individuals - to suit the BC NDP objectives of growing dependency on the provincial government and growing provincial authority over all of our affairs.

[LovemyBolt]

Say it all you like. It doesn't change reality. Just as the provinces have jurisdiction over provincial affairs (as Alberta had to remind Ottawa), municipalities have jurisdiction over municipal affairs. We get the democracy we deserve, and if folk honestly think a provincial government can at whim go ahead and usurp municipal authority, we really are far too stupid for our own good.

In the upcoming election, we get to decide whether or not we're ok with the BC NDP taking authority away from municipally elected bodies, professional bodies, and individuals - to suit the BC NDP objectives of growing dependency on the provincial government and growing provincial authority over all of our affairs.

And you can deny it all you like. It doesn't change reality:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_corporation
Municipal incorporation occurs when such municipalities become self-governing entities under the laws of the state or province in which they are located. Often, this event is marked by the award or declaration of a municipal charter. A city charter or town charter or municipal charter is a legal document establishing a municipality, such as a city or town.

Under the laws of the province in which they are located.
and
In Canada, charters are granted by provincial authorities.

[rustled]

Say it all you like. It doesn't change reality. Just as the provinces have jurisdiction over provincial affairs (as Alberta had to remind Ottawa), municipalities have jurisdiction over municipal affairs. We get the democracy we deserve, and if folk honestly think a provincial government can at whim go ahead and usurp municipal authority, we really are far too stupid for our own good.

In the upcoming election, we get to decide whether or not we're ok with the BC NDP taking authority away from municipally elected bodies, professional bodies, and individuals - to suit the BC NDP objectives of growing dependency on the provincial government and growing provincial authority over all of our affairs.

And you can deny it all you like. It doesn't change reality:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_corporation
Municipal incorporation occurs when such municipalities become self-governing entities under the laws of the state or province in which they are located. Often, this event is marked by the award or declaration of a municipal charter. A city charter or town charter or municipal charter is a legal document establishing a municipality, such as a city or town.

Under the laws of the province in which they are located.
and
In Canada, charters are granted by provincial authorities.

Wikipedia doesn't tell us it's ok for the provincial government to usurp the role of municipal governments and override locally made decisions under the jurisdiction of municipal affairs to suit the current provincial government.

I can see that someone who thinks the provincial government has carte blanche to override municipalities, governing bodies and individual rights would be very afraid of handing that power over to a party that might abuse it. What makes no sense whatsoever is fearing the party that might abuse their authority more than the party that is abusing their authority.