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JLives wrote: Nov 19th, 2023, 1:13 pm
Hurtlander wrote: Nov 19th, 2023, 7:16 am
Justin Trudeau’s liberal government increased the debt more than all previous Canadian governments combined , and that was before the start of the pandemic. Name another world leader that did that, just one will do .
Name a country without debt. Just one.
I don't really think it's about "debt" per say, it's about needlessly and haphazardly ramping up that debt, thanks to moronic spending, due to the fact that you really don't know what you are doing and hold absolutely no one accountable, anywhere. That's the Liberals. They just plain suck.
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Falklands but is it really a country?
Same goes for Macao.
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JLives wrote: Nov 19th, 2023, 1:13 pm
Hurtlander wrote: Nov 19th, 2023, 7:16 am
Justin Trudeau’s liberal government increased the debt more than all previous Canadian governments combined , and that was before the start of the pandemic. Name another world leader that did that, just one will do .
Name a country without debt. Just one.
The obvious question was pretty clear above.
So, I'll name a country that did just that. Added more debt. than trudeau, allowed their dollar value to fall less than what the canadian dollar has on the world scale. Lowered purchasing power for food far less. And even had, far move corruption, ethic scandals, and a lot more government failed communications, investigations than even we did.

I'm thinking,,,,,I'm googling,,,,,give me a sec.

Sorry, I tried couldn't find one.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Nov 19th, 2023, 1:36 pm
JLives wrote: Nov 19th, 2023, 1:13 pm

Name a country without debt. Just one.
I don't really think it's about "debt" per say, it's about needlessly and haphazardly ramping up that debt, thanks to moronic spending, due to the fact that you really don't know what you are doing and hold absolutely no one accountable, anywhere. That's the Liberals. They just plain suck.
It's about moving the goalposts now that you realize there's no countries without debt.
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JLives wrote: Nov 19th, 2023, 1:13 pm
Hurtlander wrote: Nov 19th, 2023, 7:16 am
Justin Trudeau’s liberal government increased the debt more than all previous Canadian governments combined , and that was before the start of the pandemic. Name another world leader that did that, just one will do .
Name a country without debt. Just one.
Everyone is eating broken glass, so it's fine if I do too.

Canada's debt is crippling already. And it's going to get worse as we borrow to pay interest due, and have to refinance government debt at higher rates.

We're going to blow $44 billion on interest payments alone this year. How many hospitals, homes for the homeless, enviro projects, etc could we do with $44 billion? How much tax could we cut for lower income people to give them a better paycheque for $44 billion?

Trudeau's fiscal policy is among the worst in the world. Because of it, Canada is now projected to be the WORST in the OECD's 38 member countries for economic growth for the next several DECADES.

The worst, for decades. That is what the NDP Liberals have saddled us with.
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Matthew Lau: Trudeau Liberals economic update will make the bad even uglier

In the federal government’s 2023 fall economic statement, to be presented by Chrystia Freeland in the House of Commons on Tuesday, we will undoubtedly be told of the Liberals’ efficacious fiscal management and the wonderful economic results their policies have produced. But Canadians are suffering an economic crisis of unaffordability, the worst decade of growth since the Great Depression, a public sector rapidly rising in cost and notable for its inefficiency, a multitude of regulatory initiatives impoverishing consumers and the businesses who serve them, and haphazard taxation and threats of taxation to top it all off.

Whatever mumbo-jumbo the Liberals put in their economic statement is therefore unlikely to be believed by anyone except their most intransigent supporters. They are not bad people, most of them, but grasping economic reality is not among their specialties. Among those impervious to reality is the prime minister. On Friday, Justin Trudeau made the patently crackpot declaration that his government has “always exercised fiscal restraint.” In fact, they never have. When the Liberals were elected in 2015, the budget was balanced; they promptly threw it into deficit and even before the pandemic began, overspent the fiscal plan they inherited by $127 billion over four and a half years.

If spending an extra $127 billion on federal programs was reckless, Trudeau found it not enough, and has since outspent his own fiscal plans by even more astonishing margins. In Budget 2018, the Liberals projected federal spending (including interest payments and excluding a $3.0 billion “adjustment for risk”) of $383.2 billion in 2022-23. Actual spending for the year, last month’s release of the Public Accounts revealed, was $483.1 billion, so even with the pandemic over, annual spending is now inflated $100 billion above the Liberals’ 2018 plan. And the fall update may well push spending even higher.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstor ... 17e1&ei=52
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More added liberal inflation thanks to our massive declining dollar value on the world scale. All the products we purchase from Mexico is continually going up thanks to our low dollar value on the world scale. Seem's the outcome of covid, so called uncontrolled inflation effects many countries and their economies very different.
Mexico's obviousily far luckier than Canada or maybe they have far better government managing their countries.
Canada's dollar value is falling still due to world uncertainty in our economy and zero trust in our government. And we all pay. Enjoy all those fruits and veggie's your getting from Mexico, all those products manufactured, at this rate you will not be able to afford them.
At least the poor in Mexico are seeing the standard of living increase while Canada's continues to fall.

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And tomorrow the proverbial *bleep* hits the fan. Chrystia Freespender presents the federal government’s 2023 fall economic statement.

Read this and weep.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/matthe ... ven-uglier

Watch the Canadian Peso go into even more free fall.
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Per CTF:

FRONT PAGE: Trudeau government hiking the taxes you pay on beer, wine and spirits AGAIN!

“As the CTF points out, taxes already account for about half of the price of beer, 65% of the price of wine, and more than three quarters of the price of spirits.”

“Canadians are struggling with inflation and the last thing we need is the feds making it more expensive to enjoy a cold one at the end of a long work week,” Franco Terrazzano, the federal director of the CTF, said. “Prime Minister Justin Trudeau should be trying to make life more affordable and that means scrapping his alcohol tax hikes.”


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Surprise surprise, idiot Bowl Cut Guilbeault is wasting taxpayer cash appealing this enviro-fascist plastics bill. What a complete tool.
EDITORIAL: Feds' foolish fight to the last straw

To no one’s surprise, Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault announced Monday that the Trudeau government will appeal the federal court decision last week which found its ban on single-use plastics is unconstitutional.

It’s not a surprise given the Liberals’ obsession with virtue-signalling policies that have no practical effect on the problem they say they’re addressing.

The government’s own impact analysis said that while banning single-use plastics will remove 1.5 million tonnes of plastics from the waste stream from 2023 to 2032, it will add almost double that amount of waste — 2.9 million tonnes — from the use of substitutes for plastic.

It estimated the increased costs to consumers at $2 billion from 2023 to 2032. Even with estimated savings of $616 million from eliminating single-use plastics, the net cost was estimated at $1.4 billion.
The six categories of single-use plastics that were banned — bags, straws, cutlery, stir sticks, takeout containers and six-pack rings — account for an estimated 160,000 tonnes of plastic waste annually, just 5% of the overall amount of 3.3 million tonnes of plastic waste.

Of that, 86% ends up in landfills, 4% is burned, a dismal 9% is recycled — so much for all those years of faithful blue box recycling — and about 1%, or 29,000 tonnes, is discharged into the environment as litter, with 2,500 tonnes ending up in oceans, lakes and rivers.
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Hurtlander wrote: Nov 19th, 2023, 7:16 am
JLives wrote: Nov 19th, 2023, 5:19 am

Name a country without debt. Just one will do.
Justin Trudeau’s liberal government increased the debt more than all previous Canadian governments combined , and that was before the start of the pandemic. Name another world leader that did that, just one will do .
Lol entirely made up nonsense.

The majority of the debt was incurred during the pandemic. Covid relief spending was voted on unanimously by all parties in the house. In fact, the conservatives said it wasn't enough.

They can't help the guy pass the legislation and budget and then complain about the debt afterwards.
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Babba_not_Gump wrote: Nov 20th, 2023, 4:33 pm And tomorrow the proverbial *bleep* hits the fan. Chrystia Freespender presents the federal government’s 2023 fall economic statement.

Read this and weep.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/matthe ... ven-uglier

Watch the Canadian Peso go into even more free fall.
Just looked at the link and almost barfed seeing those 2 smug s-o-b’s grinning like hyenas.

Why has Canada suffered so long under these twerps? Any other country would have seen them to the rope and snap-open door long ago.
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zerograv wrote: Nov 20th, 2023, 9:10 pm
Hurtlander wrote: Nov 19th, 2023, 7:16 am
Justin Trudeau’s liberal government increased the debt more than all previous Canadian governments combined , and that was before the start of the pandemic. Name another world leader that did that, just one will do .
Lol entirely made up nonsense.

The majority of the debt was incurred during the pandemic. Covid relief spending was voted on unanimously by all parties in the house. In fact, the conservatives said it wasn't enough.

They can't help the guy pass the legislation and budget and then complain about the debt afterwards.
Are you blaming the loss of approx. 15 billion dollars on the declared and well proven actual value of the trans mountain liberal pipeline on Covid? How about the billions of uncollected over payment of CERB to cheats and liars that took it?
How about the non confidence on our cdn dollar value that drastically makes our debt payment to others extremely over escalated?
We just gave up billions of dollars of energy contracts in order to claim virtue signalling rights, that money was meant to supply our debt ratio and payments.
How do you feal about this government having to spend 100's of millions of dollars on investigations into its own failings, continually?

Sorry, claim of covid does not cover off bad government decisions. At least lets be honest when having to support ones political party. Our nation is destroyed, hiding behind covid isnt the answer.
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liisgo wrote: Nov 21st, 2023, 8:09 am
zerograv wrote: Nov 20th, 2023, 9:10 pm

Lol entirely made up nonsense.

The majority of the debt was incurred during the pandemic. Covid relief spending was voted on unanimously by all parties in the house. In fact, the conservatives said it wasn't enough.

They can't help the guy pass the legislation and budget and then complain about the debt afterwards.
Are you blaming the loss of approx. 15 billion dollars on the declared and well proven actual value of the trans mountain liberal pipeline on Covid? How about the billions of uncollected over payment of CERB to cheats and liars that took it?
How about the non confidence on our cdn dollar value that drastically makes our debt payment to others extremely over escalated?
We just gave up billions of dollars of energy contracts in order to claim virtue signalling rights, that money was meant to supply our debt ratio and payments.
How do you feal about this government having to spend 100's of millions of dollars on investigations into its own failings, continually?

Sorry, claim of covid does not cover off bad government decisions. At least lets be honest when having to support ones political party. Our nation is destroyed, hiding behind covid isnt the answer.

Lol we are one of a handful of nations on the planet with a triple A credit rating.
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