Deceiver prorogues, Iggy and Layton talk is OT here

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[quote][/voting for harper is voting for bush wannabe.
quote]

A Canadian prime minister with a minority government??? Get a clue, there cheap.

So what is voting for Iggy then?
We don't know, other than he loves this country so much he can't live in it for 35 years. What is the Lieberal platform? Sorry they don't have one. The only plan they have is to tell Canadians that whatever the Cons are doing is wrong. Even if its the same thing that they would have done. Did you hear his comments on the Senate appointments? The guy slammed Harper for doing what Lieberal Governments have been doing for years. What a joke.

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rookie314 wrote:
[/voting for harper is voting for bush wannabe.
quote]

A Canadian prime minister with a minority government??? Get a clue, there cheap.

So what is voting for Iggy then?
We don't know, other than he loves this country so much he can't live in it for 35 years. What is the Lieberal platform? Sorry they don't have one. The only plan they have is to tell Canadians that whatever the Cons are doing is wrong. Even if its the same thing that they would have done. Did you hear his comments on the Senate appointments? The guy slammed Harper for doing what Lieberal Governments have been doing for years. What a joke.

Vote Liberal, no leader, no plan, no nothing.



i never said anything bout voting for iggy, and i do think ppl should be voted to the senate for a set term
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westsidebud wrote:i never said anything bout voting for iggy, and i do think ppl should be voted to the senate for a set term


Somehow I doubt WSB votes...


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I didn't vote for stevie,
I guess you know why,
I may vote for iggy,
Tho I'm not sure why,
But if it looks certain
that stevie will win,
I for sure will go greenie,
to help save our skins.

Harpers deceivin'
has all of us grievin'
for naught to believe in
just more of his thievin.
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never said anything bout voting for iggy, and i do think ppl should be voted to the senate for a set term


So does Harper.
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Liberals PRO being ROGUE

Mr. Powers is mistaken: the Parliament of Canada has prorogued 173 times since Confederation. The current score is: by Liberals, 144 times; by Conservatives, 27 times; by Union, twice [during World War One, the Liberals and Conservatives temporarily combined as the National Union Party to jointly conduct the war effort].
The usual motive to prorogue is mere routine: the governing party feels that it has completed or exhausted the agenda which previously received the assent of Parliament, and a short break is required to formulate a fresh agenda. Upon resumption of session, the government presents that agenda to Parliament in the form of a Budget or a Throne Speech.
Every prorogue is accompanied by windbagging and political rhetoric, and a judgement as to its legitimacy cannot be made at the time of the announcement. That judgement is always made in hindsight. The standard of judgement is: did the government present a fresh agenda in the form of Budget or Throne Speech? If the government continues with the previous agenda, or presents a Budget or Throne Speech which merely re-states the previous, then the legitimacy is questionable. To date, there have been 78 such occasions where Parliament resumed without a fresh agenda, but most of those occasions were nevertheless legitimate for acceptable reasons other than parliamentary routine.
On two occasions of those 78, governing Conservatives prorogued as a courtesy to the Official Opposition: twice, the Liberal Party has been permitted to conduct a leadership convention without Members being required to attend to parliamentary duties. Subsequent to twice receiving this favour, Liberals have had three opportunities to return it, but have not done so. This is characteristic of the Liberal rudeness and unsportsmanlike conduct which has been a hallmark of Liberals ever since Pierre Trudeau, in the House of Commons, told Parliament to f__k off.
On several of the 78 occasions, Parliament has prorogued to provide a cooling off period where Canadians were sharply divided on major issues. Examples would include the prorogues of 1885 (the hanging of Louis Riel), 1941 (the third Conscription crisis), and 1956 (the Suez controversy. England and France were on opposing sides, and Canadians were divided in accord with their mother tongues). Occasionally, the motive has been because Canadians wished to focus on a completely non-political matter requiring national attention. An example would be the prorogue of 1954 (Hurricane Hazel). Several times, the prorogue has been celebratory in nature: 1945 (end of World War Two), 1967 (opening of Expo 67 and Centennial celebrations), 2010 (Vancouver Olympics. Here Prime Minister Harper is merely following a precedent established by Liberal Prime Ministers King and Pearson).
In Canada’s first century, i.e., before Trudeau, the prorogue was used for purely political motives only eight times, all of them by Liberal Prime Ministers: Laurier twice, King thrice, St.Laurent once, Pearson twice.
From 1948 to 1962, Pierre Trudeau was a leader of the communist Ralliement, making no secret of his contempt for Canadian and British traditions, including Parliament. In numerous articles, lectures, columns and books he set out an agenda to radically alter Canadian society. Towards the end of that 14-year period, he flirted briefly with the CCF (which became the NDP) before taking his own advice “to plant the seed of radical socialism within the established political parties” by joining the Liberals in 1962. Less than three years later (1965) he was able to inaugurate implementation of his agenda as Minister of Justice, introducing the Omnibus Bill which first allowed young offenders to go unpunished, permitted the murder of the unborn, dissolved the vows of matrimony, legitimized perversion, and challenged freedom of worship and freedom of speech. After he became Prime Minister in 1968, he perfected the prorogue as a purely political technique, using it more often than all his predecessors combined -- eleven times (twelve if you count his proclamation of the War Measures Act as a prorogue by other means).
Jean Chretien followed Trudeau’s lead four times. The only Conservative Prime Minister to emulate Trudeau to date has been pinko Brian Mulroney.
The score on clearly illegitimate prorogues since Confederation is: by Liberals 28; by Conservatives 8.
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rookie314 wrote:
never said anything bout voting for iggy, and i do think ppl should be voted to the senate for a set term


So does Harper.

yea mabey but still dont change the fact harper is a devil worshipping lunatic does it? :dyinglaughing:
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:ohmygod: It takes one to know one, you must be one dumb cookie to comment like u do.
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fred 2 wrote::ohmygod: It takes one to know one, you must be one dumb cookie to comment like u do.


In fairness most socialist’s comments are usually heavy on insults but short on substance. Criticizing is the easiest thing in the world to do. Any idiot can criticize. Hence why the NDP and leftists are natural born critics. Aside from more money for Unionists I cannot think of anything positive or constructive I have ever heard from a leftist/socialist/unionist as it pertains to government policy. Everything is always negative, negative, negative.
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takes one to know one, al, you seem to be damn negative yourself....check the mirror... :skippingsheep:
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Logitack wrote:takes one to know one, al, you seem to be damn negative yourself....check the mirror... :skippingsheep:


I have been called a government “cheer leader” for promoting the positive economic and taxation policies as I see them far, far more often that I have ever been called “negative” . Certainly I will criticize government policy as well when I believe it is flawed however I do at least try and maintain a balance.

I think if you read my posting pattern you will see often that I take an different perspective than the what is the status quo, at least on many Castanet forums. Even you have to admit there are many leftists on here who have to be frequently edited by the moderators because of the intense level of negativity they espouse almost daily.
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Al - they're just mad because they know they will never get into power. It must be horribly frustrating to be so smart yet be unable to ever be given the chance to exercise all of this "intelligence" on the population. :dyinglaughing:
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Al Czervic wrote: In fairness most socialist’s comments are usually heavy on insults but short on substance.


Actually Al, most socialists are academics and would cringe at the nonsensical insults spewed forth by buddywestside or the idea he would be associated with their cause.
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steven lloyd wrote:
Al Czervic wrote: In fairness most socialist’s comments are usually heavy on insults but short on substance.


Actually Al, most socialists are academics and would cringe at the nonsensical insults spewed forth by buddywestside or the idea he would be associated with their cause.



That is true but I define academics as champagne socialists as opposed to the mainstream socialists so excellently typified by the likes of Westsidebud, Nibs and Frtiz the whatever he is. By the way I define you as a closet socialists. Someone who votes NDP but tries to deny being a socialist. Usually closet socialists will use words like “socially progressive” Just like me. I am not really a right wing nut job I am a “free enterpriser”
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