Deceiver prorogues, Iggy and Layton talk is OT here

[steven lloyd]

I was only making a joke. Please kill me now and put me out of my misery.

I thought it was pretty funny. If we couldn't laugh at ourselves we would be in misery.

[NAB]

I was only making a joke. Please kill me now and put me out of my misery.

I thought it was pretty funny. If we couldn't laugh at ourselves we would be in misery.

Not to worry Al. "Suttle" humour is sometimes lost on some folk ;-)

Nab

[I Think]

Kinda cool, the Deceiver prorogues the government and his flock use it as an opportunity to slag the other parties?
What do you suppose they have been smoking?

[sarcasm2010]

Not to worry Al. "Suttle" humour is sometimes lost on some folk ;-)

Nab

SuBtle humour is good, too.

[Al Czervic]

Kinda cool, the Deceiver prorogues the government and his flock use it as an opportunity to slag the other parties?

Yes, we do. And for several good reasons.

To prorogue parliament is a legitimate parliamentary tool. Most in Canada up until recently never even had a clue what the term “prorogue” actually meant. This in itself is funny because the Federal Liberals prorogued the House to date more times than Harper has. Only when the Federal Liberals did it, evidently to the CBC it was never a big deal hence why most Canadians remained clueless about the term.

Further even to date most Canadians still do not fully understand what it means to prorogue the house. Many think it simply means shutting down the house so politicians can go on vacation; hence why they get all riled up (thx CBC !).

In reality each session of Parliament is not unlike a chapter in a book. A new session opens with a Throne Speech that will outlay a government’s priorities and direction for the upcoming term of government and legislative session and will also lay out a budget that will go along with that throne speech shortly thereafter. The opposition then has the ability to debate both the direction (throne speech) and the budget. After that task is completed Government will go about implementing their goals and work on introducing new legislation. Beyond that is question period, which basically exists solely for the opposition but is largely theatrical and most unproductive to everyday Canadians. For example the unemployed forest worker is not in any way benefitting form a debate over how the people of Afghanistan treat their fellow Afghanistan citizen’s in their prison system.

Getting back to Harper and the prorogue of Parliament for a months or so will allow the Harper Government to come back with a new plan for Canada that will be laid out in his throne speech and an accompanying budget. Obviously some speculate the possibility of an election because these are the issues most likely to be voted down by the opposition.

With the prorogue of the house a chapter of government that included massive stimulus spending in response to the economy is now complete. Much as the stimulus funds have now been allocated and projects all across Canada are underway or soon to get underway. Much as the deadline is soon to arrive on the brilliant home renovation program will soon arrive. Thus it is clearly time for the page to be turned and a new direction (or chapter) in Canada’s governance to begin courtesy of a new throne speech and related budget. The economy right now requires attention. Because of the prorogue of the house Harper can now come back in a few months with a new direction for Canada in what they believe will make for a better country and set that direction.

Believe it or not this requires a ton of work and is anything but a vacation as some fools would believe. So the question really is, do we want our Politicians busy at work setting out a new direction and budget for Canada? or would we rather they waste their time debating women’s ski jumping and how Afghanistan residents treat their fellow countrymen in jail during question period ? I know what my answer is.

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Not to worry Al. "Suttle" humour is sometimes lost on some folk ;-)

Nab

SuBtle humour is good, too.

LOL, case in point

[NAB]

Just a point related to your otherwise bang on post Al. We have to stop feeding the trolls related to Harpers prorogue being for "a few months" Unless I missed something he did that on December 30th just past, and the period between parliament breaking for the normal year end recess and a normal return to business would have been about a month (To January 25th I think in this case). So in my view you cannot count that period as part of the progrogue - parliament would have been closed anyway.

That leaves Jan 25th through the first sitting day in March as the actual prorogue period - or about one month in total, ...much less than a month as the crow flies. That's not a lot of time to get the necessary session end work done before the next session starts ("RESET").

Edit: But as usual it appears that his nib's is only interested in hearing from those who oppose the Conservatives, agree with his views, and are prepared to continue the one way slagging and personal insults. Heaven forbit he would open his eyes and realize that most of the BS that leads to this sort of thing originates with the opposition parties, particularly the Liberals and Iggy at this point. But we dare not point that out I suppose, just sit back and take the endless crap, insults, and lies being spread around here by his nibs, just because he has decided that PM Harper is his personal enemy over totally unrelated issues.

Nab

[Al Czervic]

Just a point related to your otherwise bang on post Al. We have to stop feeding the trolls related to Harpers prorogue being for "a few months" Unless I missed something he did that on December 30th just past, and the period between parliament breaking for the normal year end recess and a normal return to business would have been about a month (To January 25th I think in this case). So in my view you cannot count that period as part of the progrogue - parliament would have been closed anyway.

That leaves Jan 25th through the first sitting day in March as the actual prorogue period - or about one month in total, ...much less than a month as the crow flies. That's not a lot of time to get the necessary session end work done before the next session starts ("RESET").



Nab

Good point. I have edited accordingly.

[Al Czervic]

Edit: But as usual it appears that his nib's is only interested in hearing from those who oppose the Conservatives, agree with his views, and are prepared to continue the one way slagging and personal insults. Heaven forbit he would open his eyes and realize that most of the BS that leads to this sort of thing originates with the opposition parties, particularly the Liberals and Iggy at this point. But we dare not point that out I suppose, just sit back and take the endless crap, insults, and lies being spread around here by his nibs, just because he has decided that PM Harper is his personal enemy over totally unrelated issues.

Nab

Another excellent point. What I find interesting is take a Harper program like the Home Renovation Tax Credit. Funny how you never hear the opposition or people like Nibs label it as the Harper Renovation Tax Credit. Why ? Because they know this program has been a massive success. I know literally dozen’s of people taking advantage of it. Does the CBC do a huge news story about how successful it is ? Nope. Nothing.

Well the Home Renovation Tax Credit Program comes to an end on February 1st. So the question is do we as Canadian’s want Harper to come back with other fresh, exciting and new programs that help stimulate the Canadian economy in a time of need ? Or would we rather the Government waste it’s precious time talking about how the Afghanistan correctional system works ?

It would be nice of for a change if the CBC would actually try to educate Canadian’s and explain to them that proroguing the House does allow Harper to come back with a fresh platform courtesy of a new throne speech and related budget, something we are in dire need of given that the Home Reno and Stimulus programs are now being implemented.

I sometimes wonder; are the loons in the left really that stupid that they cannot understand the benefits of proroguing the house in order to bring in a new direction at a critical time for Cananda? Or do they really think the Afghanistan correctional system is a more important subject than the Canadian economy? And people wonder why I call them the socialist hordes.

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LOL Al. You really are trying your darndness to get me wound up on the CBC here aren't ya ;-)

Anyway, I will simply make one brief comment in that regard..

I watch the CBC a lot. It comes under those organizations and individuals listed under the heading of "Know thine enemy" ;_0

As for the previous prorogue, most of us are well aware that was caused by the opposition parties trying to undemocratically (i.e. without an election) grab power away from a democratically elected government. (Edit: with much help from the CBC of course ;-) )

Nab

[westsidebud]

Edit: But as usual it appears that his nib's is only interested in hearing from those who oppose the Conservatives, agree with his views, and are prepared to continue the one way slagging and personal insults. Heaven forbit he would open his eyes and realize that most of the BS that leads to this sort of thing originates with the opposition parties, particularly the Liberals and Iggy at this point. But we dare not point that out I suppose, just sit back and take the endless crap, insults, and lies being spread around here by his nibs, just because he has decided that PM Harper is his personal enemy over totally unrelated issues.

Nab

Another excellent point. What I find interesting is take a Harper program like the Home Renovation Tax Credit. Funny how you never hear the opposition or people like Nibs label it as the Harper Renovation Tax Credit. Why ? Because they know this program has been a massive success. I know literally dozen’s of people taking advantage of it. Does the CBC do a huge news story about how successful it is ? Nope. Nothing.

Well the Home Renovation Tax Credit Program comes to an end on February 1st. So the question is do we as Canadian’s want Harper to come back with other fresh, exciting and new programs that help stimulate the Canadian economy in a time of need ? Or would we rather the Government waste it’s precious time talking about how the Afghanistan correctional system works ?

It would be nice of for a change if the CBC would actually try to educate Canadian’s and explain to them that proroguing the House does allow Harper to come back with a fresh platform courtesy of a new throne speech and related budget, something we are in dire need of given that the Home Reno and Stimulus programs are now being implemented.

I sometimes wonder; are the loons in the left really that stupid that they cannot understand the benefits of proroguing the house in order to bring in a new direction at a critical time for Cananda? Or do they really think the Afghanistan correctional system is a more important subject than the Canadian economy? And people wonder why I call them the socialist hordes.

even though its a good program, we will never know if it stimulated the econamy, which is why it was introduced,and the fact you have to spend a certain amount to use it makes it outa reach for a lot of canadians,

[Liberty and Truth]

Kinda cool, the Deceiver prorogues the government and his flock use it as an opportunity to slag the other parties?
What do you suppose they have been smoking?

you are right - we should have all voted Green last election and allowed Lizzie the Loon to drive us straight into economic hell. Then we'd have a functioning parliament all right, which would be good as we could all watch it all day long as none of us would have jobs.

[Fritzthecat]

Kinda cool, the Deceiver prorogues the government and his flock use it as an opportunity to slag the other parties?
What do you suppose they have been smoking?

you are right - we should have all voted Green last election and allowed Lizzie the Loon to drive us straight into economic hell. Then we'd have a functioning parliament all right, which would be good as we could all watch it all day long as none of us would have jobs.

Yes, Harper has done an excellent job of making sure the unemployment rate stayed low.
Wow, he's got my vote next time.

[Liberty and Truth]

Kinda cool, the Deceiver prorogues the government and his flock use it as an opportunity to slag the other parties?
What do you suppose they have been smoking?

you are right - we should have all voted Green last election and allowed Lizzie the Loon to drive us straight into economic hell. Then we'd have a functioning parliament all right, which would be good as we could all watch it all day long as none of us would have jobs.

Yes, Harper has done an excellent job of making sure the unemployment rate stayed low.
Wow, he's got my vote next time.

Well the oilsands are still hiring if you need a job.

[Al Czervic]

Kinda cool, the Deceiver prorogues the government and his flock use it as an opportunity to slag the other parties?
What do you suppose they have been smoking?

you are right - we should have all voted Green last election and allowed Lizzie the Loon to drive us straight into economic hell. Then we'd have a functioning parliament all right, which would be good as we could all watch it all day long as none of us would have jobs.

Yes, Harper has done an excellent job of making sure the unemployment rate stayed low.
Wow, he's got my vote next time.

And what would Taliban Jack Layton have done differently? After all he only said Canada should be spending more money he left out the part about how much more and on what. Perhaps you can enlighten us.