They fought for our freedom

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To indict how poorly equipped the Cdn Army is:

https://theline.substack.com/p/tommy-co ... ers-show-a

EXTRACT: Canada has not done these thing (send military equipment). We say we’re not sending weapons because “diplomacy is the solution,” but the reality is we can’t send anything meaningful. Any small arms we send would likely be on a NATO standard, and thus not very useful for Ukrainian forces who use Soviet calibers. As for the stuff the Kyiv really needs — the anti-tank and anti-air systems that the Americans, British, and Balts are sending — we are not sending them because we barely have any. Our anti-tank capability is mostly theoretical. Because we have not replaced older, worn-out systems, we have less anti-tank capability now than we did during the “decade of darkness” in the 1990s. We’ve known for decades that we need to equip the infantry with highly-portable, effective guided missiles like the U.S. Javelin, but we haven’t bothered, save fora few Spike missile systems for our special forces. Maybe our regular ground forces will get something similar by 2033. We have literally no air defence capability besides shooting machine guns in the air and hoping for the best, so we have no air defence missiles to send. Besides the fact that we can’t support Ukraine with weapons, we can’t really support NATO allies with reinforcements either because our units, on a modern battlefield, would lack the ability to defend themselves. We might be welcome as a political gesture, but we might also just be in the way.

Our deficiencies go deeper than weapons. CAF is well below strength. But instead of doubling down on core capabilities, CAF leadership insists on putting more people and resources into newer, faddish capabilities like cyber and information warfare, when we already have an entire government agency that does cyber. Our brigades — the core of the Canadian Army’s fighting power, are under-strength, and the army’s recent “Force 2025” concept concedes that the army should hope to field small, combat team elements as the core of any near-future operational deployment. To put this in perspective, a combat team makes up part of a battlegroup, which makes up part of a brigade. The Russians have 50 battlegroup equivalents on the Ukrainian border, and roughly 16 in the Kaliningrad exclave bordering Poland and Lithuania.
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Did they really? I think they didnt...and I think there are more in the world that needs fighting for freedom than a mask that does not kill you for having one on.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Jan 31st, 2022, 6:55 pm Truer words were never spoken.
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April 9.
Vimy Ridge Day.
One of Canada's most defining days.

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/C ... dge#365566
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bb49 wrote: Apr 9th, 2022, 1:33 pm April 9.
Vimy Ridge Day.
One of Canada's most defining days.

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/C ... dge#365566
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Francophones, Anglophones, new Canadians, Black Canadians, and Indigenous Peoples
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On this Vimy day, I recommended the well put together book by Ian McKay and Jamie Swift titled The Vimy Trap , or how we learned to stop worrying and love the Great War. It discusses how the narrative of the myth of Vimy nation-building occurred and contrasts it with the reality of those at the time (including veterans) saw the event away from the nationalist mush feed to people. How it gives a false lens to see the horrific First World War and how it, the myth, is built upon by English-Canadians as a way to "put away" the national sentiment or general distaste towards Canada by French, Black or Indigenous people.
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I've read that book. Interesting but very biased. Seemed more intent on being controversial in order to put money in the author's pocket.

If you want an unbiased read, Pierre's Berton's Vimy is very factual and pertains to the battle more so then the politics of WW1.
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Sorry if this has been posted before regarding this old vid, first time I've seen this response from JT, and I don't believe a word he said was sincere.
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Canadians used to fight for freedoms and on principals, sad to see the disregard
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hozzle wrote: Apr 11th, 2022, 9:30 pm Sorry if this has been posted before regarding this old vid, first time I've seen this response from JT, and I don't believe a word he said was sincere.
Well worth watching again hozzle.

JT at 4 min hisses out that “it’s more than the government can give”.

Pinocchio’s nose grew during this one. I suspect if he tried that today in front of a crowd [sans Lib supporters] he’d be tarred and feathered.
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hozzle wrote: Apr 11th, 2022, 9:30 pm Sorry if this has been posted before regarding this old vid, first time I've seen this response from JT, and I don't believe a word he said was sincere.
Sitting governments in Canada (both parties that have been government in Canada) say thank you for your service... now get out of sight and shut the :swear: up. Be grateful for pennies we are giving you...

This BS treatment of veterans in Canada needs to Stop immediately.
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bb49 wrote: Apr 10th, 2022, 4:27 pm I've read that book. Interesting but very biased. Seemed more intent on being controversial in order to put money in the author's pocket.

If you want an unbiased read, Pierre's Berton's Vimy is very factual and pertains to the battle more so then the politics of WW1.
Yup, I was going to say, if you want an unbiased look without any Leftist stupidity attached, just read Pierre Burton's book. No "lens" required to read that book. Just a full understanding of how the Canadians refused to adopt British and French tactics, and how they "swept" the Germans off the battlefield with long range artillery, rather than just running headlong into the German machine guns hoping somehow enough guys would survive to finish the job. Quite the stunning achievement.

It was also worth noting that in 1918, when the Germans freed up millions of men from the Eastern front after the Russians capitulated, and they launched a full-scale attack on the Western front, the Germans completely ignored or refused to attack any section of the line that they knew was manned by Canada. There was no way the Germans wanted any part of the Canadians as they knew they'd get man-handled and destroyed. So once their offensive petered out, the Canadians were fresh, and went straight on the attack, sending the Germans scurrying back to where they started.
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June 6, 1944 is famous for D-Day. Lest we forget.

My grampa William Love was in D-Day. He did not romanticize the landing. It was not a great party or fun. On June 6, 1944 he was part of a platoon on a French beach to defeat the Nazis in France.

Thank you to him and the thousands of others, the French Underground for helping so many Allies.

But WW2 defined the World post-1945 and D-Day was a large part of it.

https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/pictu ... back-d-day
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Queen K wrote: Jun 6th, 2022, 8:33 am June 6, 1944 is famous for D-Day. Lest we forget.

My grampa William Love was in D-Day. He did not romanticize the landing. It was not a great party or fun. On June 6, 1944 he was part of a platoon on a French beach to defeat the Nazis in France.

Thank you to him and the thousands of others, the French Underground for helping so many Allies.

But WW2 defined the World post-1945 and D-Day was a large part of it.

https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/pictu ... back-d-day
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