Immigration - Canadian Values

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http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/full-comment/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/allan-levine-canadas-values-then-and-now&pubdate=2016-09-08

Allan Levine: Canada’s values, then and now

Our ancestors would be shaking their heads at this baffling debate and seemingly contradictory message: asking newcomers if they share “Canadian values” is “un-Canadian,” but drawing a line on mandatory music classes because of religious beliefs is, in fact, very Canadian. In the harsh and bigoted old days, these issues would not have been even up for discussion.
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Whether we want to admit it or not, most Canadians still want our immigrants to adapt and conform to “majority” values. And when they don’t, we wonder, but much more quietly than our great-grand parents did, why they came here in the first place.


Really? You mean it's bad form to visit people (much less move in with them) who don't share your religious or political views, your taste in foods or decor and spend your time criticizing them, or plotting their destruction? Who knew? :200:
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d0nb wrote:
Really? You mean it's bad form to visit people (much less move in with them) who don't share your religious or political views, your taste in foods or decor and spend your time criticizing them, or plotting their destruction? Who knew? :200:

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I have mixed feelings about this: Canada's feminist leader attends mosque event where men and woman are SEGREGATED

I don't agree with the feminists and the leftists who are okay with Nazis and Islamofascists coming here (since it's wrong to hold any Canadians values whatsoever for immigrants), but I'm okay with holding the bar low enough that allows for diversity of views on women's roles in society.
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So I'd like to hear what some of my fellow forum participants feel their Canadian Values are...

care to share?
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Barney Google wrote:So I'd like to hear what some of my fellow forum participants feel their Canadian Values are...

care to share?


I'd also be interested in what classifies a "Canadian" moral.

Obviously there are morals that are better than others, but I would assume those morals would be valued all over the world just not in Canada. Some morals, such as honesty, kindness, equality, respect, are important all over the world. So what specifies a "Canadian" moral?
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whatwhat wrote:
I'd also be interested in what classifies a "Canadian" moral.

Obviously there are morals that are better than others, but I would assume those morals would be valued all over the world just not in Canada. Some morals, such as honesty, kindness, equality, respect, are important all over the world. So what specifies a "Canadian" moral?


Are morals and values the same thing to you, WhatWhat?
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Barney Google wrote:Are morals and values the same thing to you, WhatWhat?


No. Just had the word "morals" on my mind and typed that instead of values. Mistake.
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Every culture has a different set of morals, practices, and beliefs. There is certainly much overlap, but in some cases, the values that others hold is the complete opposite of our own.

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I think being able to work and pay taxes and live within the laws of Canada is really all i'm concerned with-we ask that of ourselves.
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Yes. Debating values driven immigration decisions is a waste of air . All that should be expected is agreement to abide by the laws of the country regardless of their religious or cultural beliefs and practices.

And yet no pundits discussing this issue have even raised that as a consideration in discussions. Guess wasting time talking about 'values' gets more air time and attention and is more salacious.
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We cannot take everyone, so we discriminate, picking the very best ones. For example, we don't take Yazidis getting raped by ISIS or Africans getting raped by Boko Haram. We just don't know what they might do when they get here, and the health care costs of treating rape victims is just too high. Instead, we've put the Muslim Brotherhood at the OIC in charge so they can choose the best Sunni Muslims that escaped Assad's regime.
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Resurrecting an old topic, title seemed appropriate.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/44 ... nt-clashes
Toronto revokes Festival Eritrea permit after day of protests, violent clashes

This really irks me.
Many of these people have come to Canada due to violence in their home country, and what do they do? They continue with this violence.

This is to all you immigrants and refugees, regardless of where you are come.
You people need to leave your ethnic, political and religious differences behind, otherwise it's time for you to go back to the *bleep* hole you came from.
We don't need you turning Canada into another *bleep* hole.
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^^^ this is clearly telling me that our vetting process isn’t doing its job properly, of course knowing who our current leader is more than likely He shutdown the vetting process. aka Roxham Rd
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Babba_not_Gump wrote: Aug 6th, 2023, 7:02 pm Resurrecting an old topic, title seemed appropriate.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/44 ... nt-clashes
Toronto revokes Festival Eritrea permit after day of protests, violent clashes

This really irks me.
Many of these people have come to Canada due to violence in their home country, and what do they do? They continue with this violence.

This is to all you immigrants and refugees, regardless of where you are come.
You people need to leave your ethnic, political and religious differences behind, otherwise it's time for you to go back to the *bleep* hole you came from.
We don't need you turning Canada into another *bleep* hole.

What irritates me is that if they were so willing to fight, why didn’t they stay at home to do the good work, instead of attacking their host countries’ citizens that took them in?
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