Peter Pan Prime Minister

Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby Ken7 » Mar 21st, 2018, 4:40 pm

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/justi ... -minister/

If this article doesn't pin point it, no one will!

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Re: Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby Snman » Mar 21st, 2018, 4:59 pm

Now queue the replies calling that story a 'right wing nut bar's opinion'.
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Re: Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby Walking Wounded » Mar 21st, 2018, 5:47 pm

Ken7 wrote:https://www.thepostmillennial.com/justin-trudeau-the-peter-pan-prime-minister/

If this article doesn't pin point it, no one will!

That hit the nail square on the head.

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Re: Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby Carrs Landing Viking » Mar 21st, 2018, 6:55 pm

I have another name for the idiot, but can't post it here. :biggrin:

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Re: Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby hobbyguy » Mar 22nd, 2018, 3:11 pm

You guys don't get it. JT is doing exactly what the Liberal party wants him to do, get Facebook likes etc. He is snagging the votes for those for whom fashion and "being cool" matters.

All the "icky stuff" like budgets, defense, foreign relations, health care etc. are done by the serious folks that can't operate in that "social media buzz" space nearly as well. People like Morneau (who can actually do math), Philpott, Freeland quietly go about actually making things happen while JT flits about and gets a ton of "buzz".

It makes a good balance. I worked with regional manager who was like that. "Hail fellow, well met" and all that stuff, but couldn't even handle email properly let alone do a budget. That guy could make a customer feel happy about us being late on delivery, shipping the wrong stuff, and overcharging him for it! All the "icky stuff" like budgets, expense control, safety programs, computer systems, union contracts... that was left for me to quietly just "make it go away" in the background. As a team, it worked a treat! Very successful... he looked competent because all that stuff was in order, yet he had no clue about 80% of it.

JT is doing exactly what the Liberals, as a team, need. Calling it Peter Pan or whatever just makes it more effective.

Voters who care about policy will watch and see what Morneau and Philpott and Freeland and McKenna and crew do, things like completing CETA, completing a health care accord with the provinces, approving the TMX, getting Canada exempted from Trump's steel tariffs, signing the CPTPP, raising interest rates and tightening mortgage rules... those are things that policy voters look at, and so far a pretty good package.

The "Facebook likes" voters enjoy the stuff JT drives the opposition nutso with. So the Liberals get the best of both worlds.

"Peter Pan" it may be, but it is effective in snagging crucial extra votes. What makes it work is that JT is smart enough, enough to know what his role is, enough to know to leave the "icky stuff" to the real pros. His role isn't to be "the boss", and "the boss" doesn't fit as an image with many voters.

It may just be that "Peter Pan" is the right prime minister for this juncture in time - the age of Trump and Brexit etc.

ETA, this a quiet background move that I like: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/taxes/tax-time-2016-solar-tax-treatment-1.3442516

Taxing away part of Wynne's ridiculous "microFIT" program :biggrin:
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Re: Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby Omnitheo » Mar 22nd, 2018, 4:05 pm

Thank you. It seems that many of the armchair politicians owns the forums believe that
1) everything our government does is personally the product of Justin Trudeau.
2) a government can only process 1 thing at a time. If we’re offering Canadians the freedom to choose their own pronoun, we’re not negotiating trade deals.

These are both false.
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Re: Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby Snman » Mar 22nd, 2018, 4:11 pm

Omnitheo wrote:Thank you. It seems that many of the armchair politicians owns the forums believe that
1) everything our government does is personally the product of Justin Trudeau.
2) a government can only process 1 thing at a time. If we’re offering Canadians the freedom to choose their own pronoun, we’re not negotiating trade deals.

These are both false.


A valid point, although the second item escapes me to be honest. Can we agree that others tend to blame Harper for everything the previous government did? Works both ways I think.
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Re: Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby Omnitheo » Mar 22nd, 2018, 4:14 pm

That is certainly true, however we do also know that Harper exerted greater control over everything that happened in office under his tenure. And thus there is further onus on Harper for a lot of actions that occurred under his leadership.
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Re: Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby Snman » Mar 22nd, 2018, 4:16 pm

Perhaps, but some would suggest this is due to the fact that Trudeau leaves the decisions to others since he is unable, or unwilling, to make them himself.
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Re: Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby sobrohusfat » Mar 22nd, 2018, 5:10 pm

Carrs Landing Viking wrote:I have another name for the idiot, but can't post it here. :biggrin:


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i CAN'T either
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Re: Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby Omnitheo » Mar 22nd, 2018, 7:44 pm

Care to source that?
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Re: Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby Snman » Mar 22nd, 2018, 8:26 pm

Omnitheo wrote:Care to source that?


Pretty sure it's a 'fake quote' but it is funny and it does, imho, reflect something people might expect him to say. As they say, there is some truth in humour. Anyway, if you can't laugh at your Prime Minister, who can you laugh at? :130:
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Re: Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby Omnitheo » Mar 23rd, 2018, 8:56 am

People are too easily fooled by any fake image macro that comes across their Facebook. This is how Russian trolls spread propaganda. Suddenly you have a bunch of outraged people incapable of critical thought that are willing to just believe anything that conforms to their bias.

All of my research for this quote has turned up that it is completely fake. I don’t know about everyone else here, but I would never want to post anything that was deliberately false or misleading. That is why I reference my posts. If I was so easily fooled by such a quote, it would undermine everything else I said.

So in this case, now everything sobrohusfat says should be taken with a grain of salt. This is why it’s important to back up your claims, and to ensure that you too are not spreading lies or fake news.
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Re: Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby The Green Barbarian » Mar 23rd, 2018, 10:07 am

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Re: Peter Pan Prime Minister

Postby The Green Barbarian » Mar 23rd, 2018, 10:08 am

Omnitheo wrote: This is why it’s important to back up your claims, and to ensure that you too are not spreading lies or fake news.


Except when your "back-up" to your lies and fake news is just links to fake news generating sites like Vox and Buzzfeed. Then you are just perpetuating and substantiating fake news with more fake news.
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