Sask. Bus Accident

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I don't find Truth's opinion is irrelevant - that's a pretty snarky thing to say Fancy since most of the Forums are just that - opinions.
I'm sure there are families and friends of the crash victims who feel about the same way.
Doubt he will serve the full 8 years, and then he has the rest of his Life, miserable in guilt as it may be
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OKkayak wrote:
the truth wrote:so 8 years does not mean 8 years more like 6 max with only having to serve 2/3rds, so thats what 5 months per dead body give or take what a complete joke
Where is any factual evidence of him only serving "6 max with only having to serve 2/3rds"? He was sentenced to 8 years. 8 years means 8 years. If he is eligible for early parole or a reduced sentence, is a moot point or discussion until the actual fact.
No, this is MANDATORY, he won't serve "6 max" he'll serve 5 years 4 months.
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    Statutory Release requires federally sentenced offenders to serve the final third of their sentence in the community, under supervision and under conditions of release similar to those imposed on offenders released on full parole. Offenders serving life or indeterminate sentences are not eligible.

    Offenders on statutory release are inmates who either did not apply for release on parole, or who were denied release on full parole. Though statutory release is legislated (i.e. it is not 'conditional' and is not granted by the Parole Board), the Parole Board of Canada (PBC) can keep an offender in the institution after his/her statutory release by issuing a detention order. This occurs if there are reasonable grounds to believe that the offender is likely to commit an offence causing serious harm or death, a sexual offence involving a child or a serious drug offence. By issuing a detention order, the offender remains incarcerated after his/her statutory release.
If you want to talk about parole, that's another subject, he can do that after serving only 2 years 8 months.

Now, with his citizenship status I don't know how that will/would work. I believe after his release he will be kicked out of Canada. I don't know if he can apply and get parole and if so would he then be sent back to India. The sentence is really 8 years, even when he is released, either on Parole or Statutory Release he is supposed to be monitored til the end of the eight year sentence.

As a Canadian citizen, paying taxes that will go towards the $100,000 or so that it will cost to keep this idiot in jail per year, as soon as he can be released and sent out of Canada the better.
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normaM wrote:I don't find Truth's opinion is irrelevant - that's a pretty snarky thing to say Fancy since most of the Forums are just that - opinions.
I'm sure there are families and friends of the crash victims who feel about the same way.
Doubt he will serve the full 8 years, and then he has the rest of his Life, miserable in guilt as it may be

An opinion of whether this should have been murder charges is irrelevant (to me) since the law didn't allow for that and to keep repeating it just means a lack of understanding of what the law actually is. The charges were based on the evidence plain and simple. And to say it's a pretty snarky thing for me to say means my opinion isn't allowed? Pot calling the kettle black? Our legal system isn't perfect and certainly changes could be made but the charges were specific and the judge ruled on those charges. The sentence appears to some to be longer than it should have considering other cases and it's possible the defence will file an appeal. This wasn't murder and to suggest it is ludicrous and I don't believe I've heard any of the families and friends say that it was.
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I'm quite certain, as was the court, there was zero intent on this man's part to in any way inflict the trauma that occurred. Some would do themselves, and the system as a whole, a lot of good by focusing their anger and resentment at said system rather than the person affected by it, if they feel it has not performed fairly.
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WalterWhite wrote:I'm quite certain, as was the court, there was zero intent on this man's part to in any way inflict the trauma that occurred. Some would do themselves, and the system as a whole, a lot of good by focusing their anger and resentment at said system rather than the person affected by it, if they feel it has not performed fairly.
I've been following this thread from the beginning and it's been pretty evident in the news and from those involved there was zero intent as you say.
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it was just a matter of time ,before he killed someone sad thing is he killed 16 too many
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Better and longer training, attention to details (i.e. making sure the tarp was strapped securely), familiarity with the roads and staying aware of his surroundings would have made a difference.
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Truck driver likely to face deportation: lawyer

An immigration lawyer says the truck driver who caused the deadly Humboldt Broncos bus crash in Saskatchewan is likely to be deported to India right after he serves his sentence.

Lorne Waldman, who is based in Toronto and is not involved in the case, says there's little 30-year-old Jaskirat Singh Sidhu can do to remain in Canada.

Waldman says permanent residents such as Sidhu cannot remain in the country if they commit a crime for which the maximum sentence is at least 10 years or their jail sentence is more than six months.

And he says that with a term of more than six months, there's no right to appeal a deportation order.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/tr ... &ocid=iehp
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There was no doubt he'd be deported the second he got charged because the likelihood of him receiving more than 6 months was a given.
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the truth wrote:did he not have about 50 or so infractions in 2 weeks leading up to this accident
As has been explained to you before, that doesn't mean anything if there is A) no enforcement and B) lack of proper training and education, one may not know if one is in violation of the NSC or not. This is a major issue in this country and it has know been put into the spotlight and hopefully, things will change in the industry.
the truth wrote:he knew he should not of been driving,
This is 100% speculation on your part with zero evidence, period. Your consistent nagging on and on with your fantasy views and fact less drivel won't change that.
the truth wrote:he murdered these soles
No, he didn't. He messed up and now he's being punished for his mistakes. Thankfully, this tragedy may bring some major changes to our roads to keep us all safe.
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oldtrucker wrote:
dle wrote:You are hired!
Okay.
This applies to marine, air and ground.
No one shall act as captain of any machine with a engine if they
-have not received proper training/licence to operate the machine.
-have worked over 50 hours in the past 7 days.
-have worked over 12 hours in a 24 hour period.

Piece work payment is no longer allowed.
Employees to be paid by the hour plus overtime(just like everyone else in Canada).

Done.

Agreed :up: ! You are going to be very busy in your new job slapping all these industries into tip-top shape!
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Does anyone else besides me, feel that there might be some people here who believe the truck driver should’ve received the harshest punishment imaginable because the truck driver was a new Canadian whose ethnic heritage was something other than blond haired blue eyed European.
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There’s one or two, but probably only one person who wouldn’t have made a single comment in this thread if the driver didn’t have brown skin. But that obviously shouldn’t factor in the slightest way as to the sentence given.

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