Sask. Bus Accident

Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby GordonH » Apr 20th, 2018, 4:02 pm

oldtrucker wrote:Even if the sun was 20 or 30 degrees off the sight line of the stop sign, the glare may have made it impossible to see the red flashing light. Perhaps glare from the glass or other truck parts as well would have impaired his vision. It can happen.


Even if you are looking away from the sun.
Since the sun was WSW (@ 25 degrees off the horizon) and both warning sign of a stop sign ahead & the actual stop sign was north side/passenger side of the vehicle (like stop signs positioned).
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby averagejoe » Apr 29th, 2018, 9:47 am

Interesting analysis....


Humboldt Bus Accident - Physics Analysis
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby my5cents » Apr 29th, 2018, 11:57 am

averagejoe wrote:Interesting analysis....

Thanks for sharing, averagejoe. Pretty clear, isn't it.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby averagejoe » Apr 29th, 2018, 12:12 pm

my5cents wrote:
averagejoe wrote:Interesting analysis....

Thanks for sharing, averagejoe. Pretty clear, isn't it.


Thanks! It seems to cover all angles....
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Catsumi » Apr 29th, 2018, 12:29 pm

A well explained method of accident analysis. My blood ran cold when he did the last set of calculations.

This should be a must watch for those who like to speed, roll through stop signs and not pay attention while driving. There is no such thing as a guardian angel sitting on anyones shoulders. :200:
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby generalposter » Apr 29th, 2018, 3:06 pm

23 days since the collision and not a word from the investigators. Whose to say the surviving driver hasn't fled the country ? I hope they pulled his passport or immigration papers on day one to ensure he's around to answer some questions. I think the investigators are dragging their feet and it smells like a cover up. The fault might reaches places someone doesn't want to be revealed.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby the truth » Apr 29th, 2018, 3:24 pm

good point...................
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby GordonH » Apr 29th, 2018, 4:11 pm

generalposter wrote:23 days since the collision and not a word from the investigators. Whose to say the surviving driver hasn't fled the country ? I hope they pulled his passport or immigration papers on day one to ensure he's around to answer some questions. I think the investigators are dragging their feet and it smells like a cover up. The fault might reaches places someone doesn't want to be revealed.


The investigators, police & the Provincial Crown had better be doing their due diligence on this case.
Based on what was said & done with the numbers in the post averagejoe posted.
Truck driver is guilty of deaths & injuries to everyone on that bus, anything short of that impo would be pure BS.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby generalposter » Apr 29th, 2018, 4:21 pm

They will reveal what they choose to reveal and tell the public what they want the public to know.

Out of respect for the families that have been directly affected I would expect them to provide an update by now...'We are continuing the investigation and expect to make an announcement ____________ . We are working closely with the driver and the companies involved to bring this incident to a conclusion.

The Humboldt community ( and many Canadians) are growing uneasy with this wait.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Fancy » Apr 29th, 2018, 5:30 pm

generalposter wrote:23 days since the collision and not a word from the investigators. Whose to say the surviving driver hasn't fled the country ? I hope they pulled his passport or immigration papers on day one to ensure he's around to answer some questions. I think the investigators are dragging their feet and it smells like a cover up. The fault might reaches places someone doesn't want to be revealed.

Did you not watch the press conference 10 days ago? I posted a link and the fact the driver was in regular contact with the RCMP.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby generalposter » Apr 29th, 2018, 5:46 pm

Found your link, thanks. I still feel they are being far too quiet. One of the biggest tragedies in recent history deserves more updates IMO. More information, more inclusion, especially for the families.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Fancy » Apr 29th, 2018, 6:02 pm

What's to be said if analysis isn't complete?
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby generalposter » Apr 29th, 2018, 6:40 pm

I can think of several things they could say to alieve any anxiety people might be feeling about the investigation. Perhaps you could too if you thought long and hard about it.

I will not be fielding any more questions regarding my opinion or engaging chronically argumentative people about some random outdated news release at this time. I reserve any more comment until I see fit. Please exit through the door on your right. Thank you.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Fancy » Apr 29th, 2018, 6:42 pm

generalposter wrote:I can think of several things they could say to alieve any anxiety people might be feeling about the investigation. Perhaps you could too if you thought long and hard about it.

I will not be fielding any more questions ...

My mistake on not quoting the original post but this was the text I responded to.

Considering you didn't watch the news conference I doubt there's really anything you could suggest that hasn't been touched on.
Fielding questions? I'm not a reporter and you should have known about the press conference.

generalposter wrote:I can think of several things they could say to alieve any anxiety people might be feeling about the investigation. Perhaps you could too if you thought long and hard about it.

I will not be fielding any more questions regarding my opinion or engaging chronically argumentative people about some random outdated news release at this time. I reserve any more comment until I see fit. Please exit through the door on your right. Thank you.



As for the "some random outdated news release" - it was hardly "random" - it was a press conference that you should have been aware of prior to posting what you did - it's that simple.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby my5cents » Apr 30th, 2018, 8:38 am

Fancy wrote:What's to be said if analysis isn't complete?

I agree. The police have conducted the scene investigation, the facts gathered have been sent to California for further analysis, as likely have the modules from the vehicles.

We are only 10 days post collision folks.

Also the real resolution, no matter the outcome of the investigation is the court process which will be, what ? a year or more away minimum ?

The question of the civil process is also still up in the air. I'm sure the insurance policy of the trucking company will be drained dry and the company will be dissolved (likely already). With the large amount of donations I don't know how the civil process with adjudicate settlement, if it is even worth while going after the company.
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