Sask. Bus Accident

Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby the truth » Jul 10th, 2018, 1:18 pm

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby oldtrucker » Jul 10th, 2018, 10:26 pm

Last I heard, suing a truck driver that has nothing equals … nothing. What's the point?
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Treblehook » Jul 10th, 2018, 11:57 pm

Gixxer wrote: "Very interesting analysis a little bias. The truck was probably governed and at its max GVW 62500kg. No denying that the Truck driver ran the stop sign the big question is why.

What is the speed limit of the highway the truck driver was travelling on?

What was the visibility at the time of accident?

Also is all this outrage because this man is east indian and it was a hockey team of white players? Lets reverse the scenario and make the driver of the truck white and the bus full of east indians. Would there still be all this outrage towards the driver and huge support for the victims? What if the bus was full of asian tourists. Would there be a huge gofundme campaign, people putting hockey sticks out, and an app for posting on FB supporting the victims?"


Good grief.... how could you possibly turn this into a race issue. To do so IMHO is truly pathetic.. shame on you.

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby my5cents » Jul 11th, 2018, 8:06 am

oldtrucker wrote:Last I heard, suing a truck driver that has nothing equals … nothing. What's the point?


What about insurance ?

Not sure how the private insurance works in Alberta (that's where the truck is registered and licensed).

In BC, a criminal driving conviction breaches all coverage, both own damage (collision) and liability, BUT, ICBC will pay out to the victim and attempt to recover from the driver and likely the company (fat chance of either).

Very likely with the number of dead (sad, but young males with no dependents aren't that expensive for an insurance company) and especially the number of injured and crippled for life, any suit will likely exceed the policy limits.

I don't know what the minimum liability insurance a trucking company has to have in Alberta but you can bet your shirt, this start-up, low budget trucking company with 2 trucks will have had the bare minimum.

Wasn't millions donated to this cause by the public already ?

Depending on how many sue, the policy limit, and the way a breach is handled in Alberta/Saskatchewan there likely won't be much of the pie to spread around.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby vinnied » Jul 11th, 2018, 1:00 pm

Treblehook wrote:
Good grief.... how could you possibly turn this into a race issue. To do so IMHO is truly pathetic.. shame on you.

ive noticed that's becoming a common occurance on these forums
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby the truth » Jul 11th, 2018, 3:24 pm

that's left wingers for ya
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby GordonH » Jul 11th, 2018, 3:40 pm

This accident has nothing to do with the race of individuals involved, it has everything to do with who was in the wrong and caused the deaths & injuries of so many people.

Also about who would send a driver out with as little training as this fellow had, on his own.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby stuphoto » Jul 11th, 2018, 4:54 pm

GordonH wrote: who would send a driver out with as little training as this fellow had, on his own.

If you knew how many companies send a completely new driver out on their own you would never leave the safety of your living room.

2 years ago a large Alberta based company I work for cut their rates and couldn't hire enough qualified drivers for the iceroads.
So they hired several complete Newbies.

There were more fires, accidents, and roll overs anyone had seen up there since the reality tv show was kicked off the road.

It's happening all over in the industry.

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby burnedatstake » Jul 11th, 2018, 4:59 pm

GordonH wrote:This accident has nothing to do with the race of individuals involved, it has everything to do with who was in the wrong and caused the deaths & injuries of so many people.

Also about who would send a driver out with as little training as this fellow had, on his own.


i appreciate that you took the time to say this. this has nothing to do with race at all. in the end its personal responsibility (the driver) not race. where i sympathize with the driver is the "bottom line" agenda of businesses. he wasnt trained properly and governments have been having a blind eye. its sad that it takes an event like this that ruins many lives (drivers included) for governments to stop catering to businesses and actually regulate vocations like hauling. there is a skilled worker shortage - but that doesnt mean that a guy who just finished a course (that you can pay less than a skilled driver) has any savvy at the job or on the roads at all. hopefully there becomes a graduated period for drivers before they can get out on the roads they share with all of us and our loved ones.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby stuphoto » Jul 11th, 2018, 5:23 pm

burnedatstake wrote: (that you can pay less than a skilled driver) has any savvy at the job or on the roads at all. hopefully there becomes a graduated period for drivers before they can get out on the roads they share with all of us and our loved ones.

I really hate to say this but the complete new drivers often do get paid the exact same as a seasoned driver. This is one of the many reasons it is hard to attract seasoned drivers.

I almost quite my local job last week because of this and the fact that they are even giving the new drivers the better runs.
I have my doubts that I will be with this company next year.

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby oldtrucker » Jul 12th, 2018, 1:38 pm

stuphoto wrote:
burnedatstake wrote: (that you can pay less than a skilled driver) has any savvy at the job or on the roads at all. hopefully there becomes a graduated period for drivers before they can get out on the roads they share with all of us and our loved ones.

I really hate to say this but the complete new drivers often do get paid the exact same as a seasoned driver. This is one of the many reasons it is hard to attract seasoned drivers.

I almost quite my local job last week because of this and the fact that they are even giving the new drivers the better runs.
I have my doubts that I will be with this company next year.

The entire 'industry' is in complete shambles. Complete.
I am doing a article that is aimed to let the cat out of the bag to the public on the entire gong show. Any other semi drivers out there that have something to say- pm me.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby dogspoiler » Jul 14th, 2018, 9:59 am

If possible it would be great if you could include a picture of that fellow on Highway through Hell. The one where he was out in 6 inches of slush in his sandals, trying to put chains on without a clue how to do it.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby dogspoiler » Jul 14th, 2018, 10:40 am

I would also hope that the Highways folks look into some improvements to intersections. It is obviously needed.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby averagejoe » Aug 13th, 2018, 9:52 am

Owner of trucking firm involved in Humboldt crash not fully trained before driving for another company

CALGARY—Shortly after his business was suspended over its involvement in the horrific Humboldt bus crash, Sukhmander Singh sold one of his two trucks to another carrier and began working as its sole driver.

Singh, the owner of Calgary-based Adesh Deol Trucking Ltd., appears to have lacked mandatory safety training, but that didn’t stop him from hitting the road at least twice for Quality Logistics this spring before the province briefly suspended its operations, according to documents obtained by StarMetro.

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Sukhmander Singh, owner of Adesh Deol Trucking Ltd

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby the truth » Aug 13th, 2018, 11:34 am

seems to me the owner should also do some jail time........
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