Sask. Bus Accident

Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby gman313 » Jan 8th, 2019, 11:27 am

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the driver has plead guilt to all charges and owned his mistake. the families are all being paid generously by donations, and they will likely get insurance money as well. Time to move forward
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby kingsandman » Jan 8th, 2019, 11:30 am

the truth wrote:so the real question now is, how much little time will he get for murdering 16 people :swear:

He didn't "murder" anyone......
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby the truth » Jan 8th, 2019, 11:31 am

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby the truth » Jan 8th, 2019, 11:34 am

kingsandman wrote:
the truth wrote:so the real question now is, how much little time will he get for murdering 16 people :swear:

He didn't "murder" anyone......



imo he did
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Gixxer » Jan 8th, 2019, 11:35 am

the truth wrote:driving that semi when he was not trained properly to do so makes it murder in my books


He held a driver's license to operate the vehicle. Which means he was trained and passed the driving test.

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby kingsandman » Jan 8th, 2019, 11:36 am

GordonH wrote:Evidence against him was overwhelming, fighting the charges impo would be futile on his part.

Added later: whatever the sentence is he should waive any rights to early parole.

What "evidence"?
No one is questioning whether he was driving the truck, and right up to the exact second he plead guilty, that's all we knew for sure.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby the truth » Jan 8th, 2019, 11:39 am

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby kingsandman » Jan 8th, 2019, 11:40 am

the truth wrote:

imo he did

Opinions are like Belly Buttons, everyone's got one.
You need to look up the definition of murder.......
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby the truth » Jan 8th, 2019, 11:44 am

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby my5cents » Jan 8th, 2019, 11:46 am

RupertBear wrote:He wasn't charged with murder, he was charged with dangerous driving causing death. In Canada, that carries a maximum penalty of 14 years in prison.
I suspect he will be sentenced to concurrent terms -- not consecutive.
My guess is he will receive about five years total.


So 60 months. He can apply for parole after serving 1/3 of his sentence 20 months, (1 year 8 months). Must be released after serving 2/3 of his sentence unless there are very serious extenuating circumstances.

and we think life is cheap in other countries.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby my5cents » Jan 8th, 2019, 12:08 pm

kingsandman wrote:
the truth wrote:so the real question now is, how much little time will he get for murdering 16 people :swear:

He didn't "murder" anyone......

Your correct the charge isn't murder. He did take lives while acting in a criminal manner, but in Canada it's not called murder.

There was no intent to kill (stupidity doesn't count as intent).

In some jurisdictions in other countries they call Dangerous Driving Causing Death "Vehicular Homicide".

If you intentionally kill someone with a vehicle that would be murder, but driving dangerously and killing is not, in Canada, homicide.

Some US states have laws on their books for Vehicular Homicide.

Our politicians play games and make fools of some of us by touting that this or that crime "has a maximum sentence of …." In this case Dangerous Driving Causing Death has a maximum of 14 years, but we're not going to see anything near that.

Some are fooled, the media either plays along or is just plain stupid, regurgitating government announcements that they are "getting tough on [fill in the crime] and have increased the maximum penalty to...….". (my money is on media stupidity)

When the maximum is never handed out it's just smoke and mirrors.

How many lives have been taken and others devastated ? This *bleep* will serve a year and a half or so.

In the VERY least on top of whatever ridiculous sentence he gets I would prohibit him from driving for L.I.F.E.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby stuphoto » Jan 8th, 2019, 12:18 pm

my5cents wrote:and we think life is cheap in other countries.

The way I see it a human life is worth $62.50 here in Canada.

That is the $1,000 bail he needed to stay out of prison for the last 6 months ( minus 3 days )
Divided by the 16 people he killed.

What a joke.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby vegas1500 » Jan 8th, 2019, 12:29 pm

stuphoto wrote:
my5cents wrote:and we think life is cheap in other countries.

The way I see it a human life is worth $62.50 here in Canada.

That is the $1,000 bail he needed to stay out of prison for the last 6 months ( minus 3 days )
Divided by the 16 people he killed.

What a joke.


You clearly don’t understand what bail means.
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