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Ka-El wrote:

the truth wrote: or hoping to get less time, sad story for his victims, not him, he ran a stop sign and killed 16 people

So what you're saying is that if in a moment of carelessness you killed someone (maybe didn't see a stop sign or slid on some ice?) we should have no concern for how you fell about it and just assume you have no remorse? Seriously, I bet you would have been all over the plea-bargaining thing in an attempt to do anything to save some of your butt.

this story is not about me its about him killing 16 people, try not to feel to sorry for the families that lost a loved one

RupertBear wrote:

the truth wrote:so you know this guy personally --not--- you know for a fact he is not faking it--not--- a good lawyer would of told him to fake remorse, judges and the public eat that bs up

No, I don't know him personally. Do you?
Earlier in this thread you stated he should be charged with murder. That means he hit the road that day intent on killing someone. You also claimed he is just faking remorse to get a lighter sentence. Care to enlighten us on how you came to these conclusions?

can you prove that , it was not his intention---no--- that's my point

the truth wrote:can you prove that , it was not his intention---no--- that's my point

Mmmm - you do know how that sounds? Don't think anyone involved believes it was his intention.

i ask the hard question...............

the truth wrote:i ask the hard question...............

No, you didn't. You made a claim that you can't back up.

the truth wrote:]he said so hoping this will get him less time that simple

the truth wrote:i ask the hard question...............

no you didn't. you made a baseless claim

it's like a lawyer calling someone a rapist during a robbery trial. Now it's in the jurys head even though its not true lol

If you guys want to argue start a thread in Bickering please! Thank you.

OKkayak wrote:

the truth wrote:driving that semi when he was not trained properly to do so makes it murder in my books

Then that would make Transport Canada the true "murderer". He had the required training, he was legal.

Bingo !!

How is one to know whether they have been trained properly or not ?

He aquired a licence, stamped by the Government.

The age old method of "you'll pick it up as you go" mentality of
most licencing programs.

None of us know what the driver of that semi feels. I highly doubt he is cavalier about it. I have a family member who was driving a truck that caused the death of one person. Not his fault in the slightest, yet he was severely traumatized. Felt guilt and second-guessed himself. He became severely depressed. Support from RCMP, Victims Services, Family, Friends and others didn't stop him from feeling responsible. I can't imagine what a driver who was responsible for a crash, whether through unintentional error or reckless behavior, would feel to have caused the death of some many and serious injuries to so many more.

Most of us like (need) to have a villain, because none of us like to think we could ever end up responsible for the death of another while we are behind the wheel.

Truth - I appreciate the compassion you feel towards the victims and the families. Surely you don't think he got into his truck with the intent to hit a bus full of young hockey players.
It is a tragedy. For the families who mourn the lost, the poor young guys who face a Lifetime is issues from their injuries
For a nation of people who worship the game of Hockey :(
But not for a second do I believe the Trucker set out to do what horror he managed
Don't know him so cannot say if he is truly remorseful, but I highly doubt he doesn't wish he could redo that event.
I have never even hit a squirrel on the road. I don't think I could live with even that

the truth wrote:

Ka-El wrote: So what you're saying is that if in a moment of carelessness you killed someone (maybe didn't see a stop sign or slid on some ice?) we should have no concern for how you fell about it and just assume you have no remorse? Seriously, I bet you would have been all over the plea-bargaining thing in an attempt to do anything to save some of your butt.

this story is not about me its about him killing 16 people, try not to feel to sorry for the families that lost a loved one

Just illustrating how clear it is to everyone what your motivation is in suggesting the driver has no remorse. Carry on

so you know for a fact he has true remorse , your friends he told you so---not---

So those who feel the power to judge

should the Ottawa bus driver who just put nine people in the hospital with critical injuries, do to his inability to handle a double decker bus, also be locked up for life? I'm sure a couple won't make it so it will be murder as you all think

gman313 wrote:So those who feel the power to judge

should the Ottawa bus driver who just put nine people in the hospital with critical injuries, do to his inability to handle a double decker bus, also be locked up for life? I'm sure a couple won't make it so it will be murder as you all think

I expect the police to carry out a thorough investigation, and if the findings indicate any blame on the part of the driver for the crash, then I do expect charges to be laid.
According to witnesses, the bus hit a patch of ice as it approached the bus shelter.