Was it determined that the bus was speeding as well?
Re: Sask. Bus Accident
Posted: Feb 1st, 2019, 8:19 pm
by dirtybiker
My participation in this thread was never intended to defend anyone, nor to condemn anyone.
Just to maybe shed some light from a perspective of a person that has spent a lifetime covering miles, hauling loads.
With a side of how the newbies can be fed a song and dance on how things are done. The willingness for newbies to get after it and prove themselves as the next best.
Re: Sask. Bus Accident
Posted: Feb 2nd, 2019, 6:49 am
by Fancy
Gixxer wrote:Was it determined that the bus was speeding as well?
Fancy wrote:The bus driver braked - don't forget the high speeds both vehicles were doing:
Forensic analysis found that the truck was travelling at 86-96 kilometres an hour through the intersection, a speed that would have been impossible if it had stopped at the nearby stop sign. The bus was doing 98-108 kilometres an hour when the driver hit the brakes 24 metres before the intersection. The bus was not facing a stop sign.
I drove long haul for about 6 weeks when I first got my license. Seen what it was all about and got the hell out and never looked back. No thanks.
Re: Sask. Bus Accident
Posted: Feb 4th, 2019, 12:44 pm
by dontrump
Accumulated 70 violations of federal and provincial trucking regulations in the days leading up to the crash – meaning he should not have been allowed on the road at the time of the accident, according to documents presented in court. He had only been driving trucks for three weeks prior to the crash,
HOW?? is it possible to be only driving 3 weeks and get 70 violations and WHY would any cop or CVSS officer continue to allow this guy to drive based on what they would see on their computers at the time they stop or check this guy ????
Re: Sask. Bus Accident
Posted: Feb 4th, 2019, 1:33 pm
by dirtybiker
^^You need to re-read. No disrespect, but comprehension seems low on this point.
"IF" he would have been stopped and inspected this is what "Could" have been written up.
Since he "wasn't" stopped and inspected it wasn't "known" till after the fact.
My view is even he would not have known about the majority of infractions, being mis-led, poorly, if any, actual training and very green, thrust into a fairly complex, if not convoluted rules package.
It takes years to learn the in and out of it, with a solid grasp of all the requirements, also to keep up with the ongoing regulatory changes along the way.
eta; It was stated, "If" he would have been stopped beforehand, that day, he would have been parked for 72 hours. And from my view, issued fines, and had the company put on notice with the Feds.
driver shortage from my perspective is lousy wages being #1 A friend of mine has driven off and on over the years and like he said you drive Vernon to Calgary in the dead of winter all to make a below average wage and see how that works for you
Re: Sask. Bus Accident
Posted: Feb 25th, 2019, 9:26 am
by Fancy
Saskatchewan's coroner's service has released its report into the Humboldt Broncos bus crash and it calls for tougher enforcement of trucking rules and mandatory seatbelts on highway buses.
The office has made recommendations to six different government agencies after reviewing the crash.
The coroner also says the Ministry of Highways should review its policy on signs at intersections and Saskatchewan Government Insurance should implement mandatory truck-driver training.
There is a recommendation that the chief coroner create a mass fatality plan and that the Saskatchewan Health Authority review how it identifies the dead and injured in such an event.
Sixteen people were killed and 13 others were injured in last April's collision.
A semi-truck barrelled through a stop sign at a rural intersection and was struck by the Broncos hockey bus.
The report lists the deaths as accidental and the chief coroner is not calling for an public inquest.
In December, the Saskatchewan government announced it will make training mandatory for semi-truck drivers starting in March. Drivers seeking a Class 1 commercial licence will have to undergo at least 121 1/2 hours of training.
Transport Canada announced in June that the department will require all newly built highway buses to have seatbelts by September 2020. Some charter bus companies say many new vehicles already have seatbelts, although there is no way to ensure passengers are wearing them
Saskatchewan's coroner's service has released its report into the Humboldt Broncos bus crash and it calls for tougher enforcement of trucking rules and mandatory seatbelts on highway buses.
The office has made recommendations to six different government agencies after reviewing the crash.
The coroner also says the Ministry of Highways should review its policy on signs at intersections and Saskatchewan Government Insurance should implement mandatory truck-driver training.
There is a recommendation that the chief coroner create a mass fatality plan and that the Saskatchewan Health Authority review how it identifies the dead and injured in such an event.
Sixteen people were killed and 13 others were injured in last April's collision.
A semi-truck barrelled through a stop sign at a rural intersection and was struck by the Broncos hockey bus.
The report lists the deaths as accidental and the chief coroner is not calling for an public inquest.
In December, the Saskatchewan government announced it will make training mandatory for semi-truck drivers starting in March. Drivers seeking a Class 1 commercial licence will have to undergo at least 121 1/2 hours of training.
Transport Canada announced in June that the department will require all newly built highway buses to have seatbelts by September 2020. Some charter bus companies say many new vehicles already have seatbelts, although there is no way to ensure passengers are wearing them
Do we have this mandatory training here in BC? If not, wonder why the coroner is recommending it only for Saskatchewan? It should be nation-wide if it's going to be. I hope we have it/get it here in BC - some of the bloody brain-dead moves I have seen truckers make on the windy BC highways are just mindboggling.
Most recently the video of the trucker trying to pass another trucker on HWY 1 near Sicamous or Revelstoke - what was he thinking??? Sorry I can't find the link to the story again on Castanet - maybe you can get it Fancy? Very recent....and very scary! I am so glad the guy with the dash cam footage reported him to the company the trucker worked for and the RCMP but I sure wish we would hear what came of it. Guy should have his license stripped - there was no reason on this earth he should have attempted that.
Re: Sask. Bus Accident
Posted: Feb 25th, 2019, 11:33 am
by GordonH
Fancy wrote:
Saskatchewan's coroner's service has released its report into the Humboldt Broncos bus crash and it calls for tougher enforcement of trucking rules and mandatory seatbelts on highway buses.
The office has made recommendations to six different government agencies after reviewing the crash.
The coroner also says the Ministry of Highways should review its policy on signs at intersections and Saskatchewan Government Insurance should implement mandatory truck-driver training.
There is a recommendation that the chief coroner create a mass fatality plan and that the Saskatchewan Health Authority review how it identifies the dead and injured in such an event.
Sixteen people were killed and 13 others were injured in last April's collision.
A semi-truck barrelled through a stop sign at a rural intersection and was struck by the Broncos hockey bus.
The report lists the deaths as accidental and the chief coroner is not calling for an public inquest.
In December, the Saskatchewan government announced it will make training mandatory for semi-truck drivers starting in March. Drivers seeking a Class 1 commercial licence will have to undergo at least 121 1/2 hours of training.
Transport Canada announced in June that the department will require all newly built highway buses to have seatbelts by September 2020. Some charter bus companies say many new vehicles already have seatbelts, although there is no way to ensure passengers are wearing them
impo transport trucks training & regulations should be a Federal thing so rules are the same from sea to sea to sea, in this country.
Re: Sask. Bus Accident
Posted: Feb 25th, 2019, 12:38 pm
by OKkayak
dle wrote: Most recently the video of the trucker trying to pass another trucker on HWY 1 near Sicamous or Revelstoke - what was he thinking??? Sorry I can't find the link to the story again on Castanet - maybe you can get it Fancy? Very recent....and very scary! I am so glad the guy with the dash cam footage reported him to the company the trucker worked for and the RCMP but I sure wish we would hear what came of it. Guy should have his license stripped - there was no reason on this earth he should have attempted that.
Quite a bold statement from someone who watched a few seconds of a dash cam video. Do you have evidence to prove that the other truck wasn't keep his/her lane?
Re: Sask. Bus Accident
Posted: Feb 25th, 2019, 1:13 pm
by dle
OKkayak wrote:
dle wrote: Most recently the video of the trucker trying to pass another trucker on HWY 1 near Sicamous or Revelstoke - what was he thinking??? Sorry I can't find the link to the story again on Castanet - maybe you can get it Fancy? Very recent....and very scary! I am so glad the guy with the dash cam footage reported him to the company the trucker worked for and the RCMP but I sure wish we would hear what came of it. Guy should have his license stripped - there was no reason on this earth he should have attempted that.
Quite a bold statement from someone who watched a few seconds of a dash cam video. Do you have evidence to prove that the other truck wasn't keep his/her lane?
You need to watch the video - I wish I could find it - I will keep trying - you obviously haven't or you wouldn't have posted this!
Re: Sask. Bus Accident
Posted: Feb 25th, 2019, 1:14 pm
by OKkayak
dle wrote:You need to watch the video - I wish I could find it - I will keep trying - you obviously haven't or you wouldn't have posted this!