Sask. Bus Accident

Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby ferri » Feb 1st, 2019, 1:33 pm

GET BACK ON TOPIC AND STOP BICKERING! :-X
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby dirtybiker » Feb 1st, 2019, 1:41 pm

^^^Fine, couple pounds to the spike, drop a cog, crack a window..
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby oldtrucker » Feb 1st, 2019, 1:56 pm

dirtybiker wrote:^^^Fine, couple pounds to the spike, drop a cog, crack a window..


Your not out bangin gears right now and posting?
I just hope that those 16 people won't be forgotten by the industry/government promising changes, and not following through with them, or implementing the wrong changes. Money and greed always seems to have a way of trumping everything else.

Edit...
Wait a minute... "couple pounds to the spike, drop a cog, crack a window". Your not running a new Cummins with a launch you through the window jake, are you?
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby dirtybiker » Feb 1st, 2019, 2:15 pm

MELT (Mandatory Entry Level Training) already implemented in Ontario.
Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta programs start in March of 2019.
Good ol' B.C. is thinking about it, conducting studies...Yada, yada, yada...

I posted a link a few ???? pages back.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby RupertBear » Feb 1st, 2019, 2:20 pm

dirtybiker wrote:MELT (Mandatory Entry Level Training) already implemented in Ontario.
Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta programs start in March of 2019.
Good ol' B.C. is thinking about it, conducting studies...Yada, yada, yada...

I posted a link a few ???? pages back.


You would think that something that involves inter-provincial transport would be federally mandated.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby dirtybiker » Feb 1st, 2019, 2:25 pm

One would think, but, alas it is not so.
Different weight allowances, different tire allowances, length,
configurations...
different load securement protocols, speed limiters, etc., etc.
From Province to Province.
It really is a headfull of stuff to run Inter-Provincial.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Mark1111 » Feb 1st, 2019, 2:37 pm

I drove truck pulling vans all over Canada and the US for 2 years when I was younger. I can tell you with absolute certainty that you can and will miss signage after several hours of flatland driving. My level of experience, skill and anticipation of the unexpected increased a 100-fold in just the first month of driving. You can take all the driver training you want running around the city but you will learn very quickly how unskilled you really are on the first big hill you have to run. Transport Canada needs to mandate that new drivers, at the very least, double team with an experienced driver for a few months before they solo.

I don't believe this guy consciously ran the stop sign. Have you ever tried to just run a stop sign, even in your car or truck, without knowing the crossroad was clear? It simply goes against your inherent survival instincts.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Mordu » Feb 1st, 2019, 2:56 pm

normaM wrote:https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/jaskirat-singh-sidhu-humboldt-broncos-deportation-1.5002167
Sounds like he will be deported after serving out the sentence

Thanks, normaM, I'm just about out of :popcorn:

“Semi-driver in Humboldt Broncos crash will likely be deported, says immigration lawyer”

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon ... -1.5002167
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby the truth » Feb 1st, 2019, 3:10 pm

after he does hard time in canada [icon_lol2.gif] o wait there is no such thing as hard prison time in canada
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby my5cents » Feb 1st, 2019, 3:10 pm

It seems the discussion is based on "on purpose" and "accidental". Hey if it was accidental and he's sorry, he'll get some punishment all is good. He didn't do it on purpose.

Well accidental motor vehicle collisions are extremely rare. In insurance terms they are called "inevitable accidents".

When you see or hear about a law suit stemming from a motor vehicle collision, the suit is not based on A hit B by accident and B wants to be compensated. If that happened there would be no insurance and likely no suit. Because A has to have done something wrong to be "at fault".

How could someone be at fault if they didn't do the act that cause the collision on purpose ?

What that is, is negligence. I didn't mean to drive through the red light and as a result, run down the pedestrian, it wasn't on purpose. I didn't see the light because...…..

BUT I was negligent because : I drove while I was too tired, While I was looking at a map, Bending down to pick something off the floor. There's a million reasons.

I did chose to be negligent, for one reason or another.

In this case there is more than enough negligence to go around.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby two_shoes1mit » Feb 1st, 2019, 3:12 pm

Fancy wrote:
two_shoes1mit wrote:And, the tarp story - give me a break. Pull your damn rig over and secure your tarp.

Why don't you read the story?

A tarp flapping in the wind off the back of his truck proved to be a “complete distraction” for Sidhu, who had stopped to adjust the tarp shortly before the crash, Brayford said.

I read the story, thank you.
If the tarp distraction didn't factor into it - why did his lawyer even bring it up?
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Sige » Feb 1st, 2019, 3:27 pm

I feel bad for everyone involved in this situation, from the people who lost their lives or had their lives dramatically altered, their parents and family, to the truck driver - it has, once again, shown me that nothing is ever black and white. Life has all kinds of shades of grey.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Fancy » Feb 1st, 2019, 3:29 pm

two_shoes1mit wrote:I read the story, thank you.
If the tarp distraction didn't factor into it - why did his lawyer even bring it up?

I'm not sure how you read the story when you mentioned pulling the rig over and securing the tarp. He DID stop to adjust the tarp. He obviously either had trouble with it which he probably wouldn't know until he was back on the road or it may have come loose again or he kept looking to see if it was okay. I've seen enough trucks with tarps flapping in the breeze that have had to pull over to adjust. And again.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Gixxer » Feb 1st, 2019, 7:05 pm

Was it determined that the bus was speeding as well?
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby dirtybiker » Feb 1st, 2019, 8:19 pm

My participation in this thread was never intended to defend anyone,
nor to condemn anyone.

Just to maybe shed some light from a perspective of a person
that has spent a lifetime covering miles, hauling loads.

With a side of how the newbies can be fed a song and dance
on how things are done.
The willingness for newbies to get after it and prove themselves
as the next best.
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