Sask. Bus Accident

Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Fancy » Feb 2nd, 2019, 7:49 am

Gixxer wrote:Was it determined that the bus was speeding as well?


Fancy wrote:The bus driver braked - don't forget the high speeds both vehicles were doing:

Forensic analysis found that the truck was travelling at 86-96 kilometres an hour through the intersection, a speed that would have been impossible if it had stopped at the nearby stop sign. The bus was doing 98-108 kilometres an hour when the driver hit the brakes 24 metres before the intersection. The bus was not facing a stop sign.


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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby oldtrucker » Feb 2nd, 2019, 10:37 am

dirtybiker wrote:With a side of how the newbies can be fed a song and danceon how things are done.The willingness for newbies to get after it and prove themselvesas the next best.







Conditioning and brainwashing to become the next 'Super-Trucker'.
" Are you a Supertrucker? Have you had your class 1 for at least 2 days? Drive with Gear Grinders trucking!...Start today!"
New equipment !!!.
New pay plan! Work as much as you want ( We need 12,500 miles/ mo. plus another 12,500 miles/mo. in your other logbook Approx 90 hours/week).
Scheduled time off at a seedy, filthy truck stop!
Logbook reset on your weekend! (No...we won't let you go home...you might decide to quit)
Benefits after 6 mo.!!! ( we find a way to get rid of you and replace you with someone else at 5 1/2 months.)
Start at $.47 cents mile to go to $.55 cents/mile after 6 month probation period! and safety bonus of $.02 cents which we will find a way to not give you, and we know that we don't have to pay by the hour, or pay overtime, or anything else that a normal Canadian would get. We know that a minimum wage coffee shop job @ 80hrs week pays more...and we don't care because the gov't says we don't have to!
Limited spots left! Hurry!!!

I am so done with this 'industry', the abuse, and I hope that other class 1 drivers are too.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Gixxer » Feb 3rd, 2019, 7:32 pm

I drove long haul for about 6 weeks when I first got my license. Seen what it was all about and got the hell out and never looked back. No thanks.

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby dontrump » Feb 4th, 2019, 1:44 pm

Accumulated 70 violations of federal and provincial trucking regulations in the days leading up to the crash – meaning he should not have been allowed on the road at the time of the accident, according to documents presented in court. He had only been driving trucks for three weeks prior to the crash,


HOW?? is it possible to be only driving 3 weeks and get 70 violations and WHY would any cop or CVSS officer continue to allow this guy to drive based on what they would see on their computers at the time they stop or check this guy ????

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby dirtybiker » Feb 4th, 2019, 2:33 pm

^^You need to re-read. No disrespect, but comprehension seems low on this point.

"IF" he would have been stopped and inspected this is what "Could" have
been written up.

Since he "wasn't" stopped and inspected it wasn't "known" till after the fact.

My view is even he would not have known about the majority of
infractions, being mis-led, poorly, if any, actual training and very
green, thrust into a fairly complex, if not convoluted rules package.

It takes years to learn the in and out of it, with a solid grasp of all
the requirements, also to keep up with the ongoing regulatory
changes along the way.

eta; It was stated, "If" he would have been stopped beforehand, that day,
he would have been parked for 72 hours.
And from my view, issued fines, and had the company put on notice with the Feds.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Gixxer » Feb 11th, 2019, 6:17 pm

From a logging truck company in Kamloops.

http://services.mundentrucking.ca/blog/ ... 1126559739
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby dontrump » Feb 12th, 2019, 10:40 am

driver shortage from my perspective is lousy wages being #1 A friend of mine has driven off and on over the years and like he said you drive Vernon to Calgary in the dead of winter all to make a below average wage and see how that works for you
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby oldtrucker » Feb 12th, 2019, 1:17 pm

dontrump wrote:driver shortage from my perspective is lousy wages being #1 A friend of mine has driven off and on over the years and like he said you drive Vernon to Calgary in the dead of winter all to make a below average wage and see how that works for you
Gixxer wrote:From a logging truck company in Kamloops.

http://services.mundentrucking.ca/blog/ ... 1126559739


Okay. Let's see if there really is a shortage(there isn't)…
Anyone can contact me through PM's to answer the following ad...
Class 1 driver w/20 years experience of on road, off road, hauling a wide variety of commodities and equipment seeks employment. Clean abstract.
I would like paid by the hour plus overtime after 8 hours.
I would prefer to not drive over45- 50 hours per week for safety reasons.
Contact oldtrucker

I could run that ad everywhere, any media platform, even print off a copy to stick on the back of my car and drive around, I promise...there won't be anyone contacting me.
There is no shortage. Period.

Only reason why some trucking companies say they can't find employees is to justify bringing in low wage temporary foreign workers.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Fancy » Feb 25th, 2019, 10:26 am

Saskatchewan's coroner's service has released its report into the Humboldt Broncos bus crash and it calls for tougher enforcement of trucking rules and mandatory seatbelts on highway buses.

The office has made recommendations to six different government agencies after reviewing the crash.

The coroner also says the Ministry of Highways should review its policy on signs at intersections and Saskatchewan Government Insurance should implement mandatory truck-driver training.

There is a recommendation that the chief coroner create a mass fatality plan and that the Saskatchewan Health Authority review how it identifies the dead and injured in such an event.

Sixteen people were killed and 13 others were injured in last April's collision.

A semi-truck barrelled through a stop sign at a rural intersection and was struck by the Broncos hockey bus.

The report lists the deaths as accidental and the chief coroner is not calling for an public inquest.

In December, the Saskatchewan government announced it will make training mandatory for semi-truck drivers starting in March. Drivers seeking a Class 1 commercial licence will have to undergo at least 121 1/2 hours of training.

Transport Canada announced in June that the department will require all newly built highway buses to have seatbelts by September 2020. Some charter bus companies say many new vehicles already have seatbelts, although there is no way to ensure passengers are wearing them

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#250039
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby dle » Feb 25th, 2019, 12:18 pm

Fancy wrote:
Saskatchewan's coroner's service has released its report into the Humboldt Broncos bus crash and it calls for tougher enforcement of trucking rules and mandatory seatbelts on highway buses.

The office has made recommendations to six different government agencies after reviewing the crash.

The coroner also says the Ministry of Highways should review its policy on signs at intersections and Saskatchewan Government Insurance should implement mandatory truck-driver training.

There is a recommendation that the chief coroner create a mass fatality plan and that the Saskatchewan Health Authority review how it identifies the dead and injured in such an event.

Sixteen people were killed and 13 others were injured in last April's collision.

A semi-truck barrelled through a stop sign at a rural intersection and was struck by the Broncos hockey bus.

The report lists the deaths as accidental and the chief coroner is not calling for an public inquest.

In December, the Saskatchewan government announced it will make training mandatory for semi-truck drivers starting in March. Drivers seeking a Class 1 commercial licence will have to undergo at least 121 1/2 hours of training.

Transport Canada announced in June that the department will require all newly built highway buses to have seatbelts by September 2020. Some charter bus companies say many new vehicles already have seatbelts, although there is no way to ensure passengers are wearing them

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#250039



Do we have this mandatory training here in BC? If not, wonder why the coroner is recommending it only for Saskatchewan? It should be nation-wide if it's going to be. I hope we have it/get it here in BC - some of the bloody brain-dead moves I have seen truckers make on the windy BC highways are just mindboggling.

Most recently the video of the trucker trying to pass another trucker on HWY 1 near Sicamous or Revelstoke - what was he thinking??? Sorry I can't find the link to the story again on Castanet - maybe you can get it Fancy? Very recent....and very scary! I am so glad the guy with the dash cam footage reported him to the company the trucker worked for and the RCMP but I sure wish we would hear what came of it. Guy should have his license stripped - there was no reason on this earth he should have attempted that.
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby GordonH » Feb 25th, 2019, 12:33 pm

Fancy wrote:
Saskatchewan's coroner's service has released its report into the Humboldt Broncos bus crash and it calls for tougher enforcement of trucking rules and mandatory seatbelts on highway buses.

The office has made recommendations to six different government agencies after reviewing the crash.

The coroner also says the Ministry of Highways should review its policy on signs at intersections and Saskatchewan Government Insurance should implement mandatory truck-driver training.

There is a recommendation that the chief coroner create a mass fatality plan and that the Saskatchewan Health Authority review how it identifies the dead and injured in such an event.

Sixteen people were killed and 13 others were injured in last April's collision.

A semi-truck barrelled through a stop sign at a rural intersection and was struck by the Broncos hockey bus.

The report lists the deaths as accidental and the chief coroner is not calling for an public inquest.

In December, the Saskatchewan government announced it will make training mandatory for semi-truck drivers starting in March. Drivers seeking a Class 1 commercial licence will have to undergo at least 121 1/2 hours of training.

Transport Canada announced in June that the department will require all newly built highway buses to have seatbelts by September 2020. Some charter bus companies say many new vehicles already have seatbelts, although there is no way to ensure passengers are wearing them

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#250039


impo transport trucks training & regulations should be a Federal thing so rules are the same from sea to sea to sea, in this country.
When you have to start compromising yourself and your morals for the people around you, it’s probably time to change the people around you.

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby OKkayak » Feb 25th, 2019, 1:38 pm

dle wrote:
Most recently the video of the trucker trying to pass another trucker on HWY 1 near Sicamous or Revelstoke - what was he thinking??? Sorry I can't find the link to the story again on Castanet - maybe you can get it Fancy? Very recent....and very scary! I am so glad the guy with the dash cam footage reported him to the company the trucker worked for and the RCMP but I sure wish we would hear what came of it. Guy should have his license stripped - there was no reason on this earth he should have attempted that.

Quite a bold statement from someone who watched a few seconds of a dash cam video. Do you have evidence to prove that the other truck wasn't keep his/her lane?

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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby dle » Feb 25th, 2019, 2:13 pm

OKkayak wrote:
dle wrote:
Most recently the video of the trucker trying to pass another trucker on HWY 1 near Sicamous or Revelstoke - what was he thinking??? Sorry I can't find the link to the story again on Castanet - maybe you can get it Fancy? Very recent....and very scary! I am so glad the guy with the dash cam footage reported him to the company the trucker worked for and the RCMP but I sure wish we would hear what came of it. Guy should have his license stripped - there was no reason on this earth he should have attempted that.


Quite a bold statement from someone who watched a few seconds of a dash cam video. Do you have evidence to prove that the other truck wasn't keep his/her lane?



You need to watch the video - I wish I could find it - I will keep trying - you obviously haven't or you wouldn't have posted this!
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby OKkayak » Feb 25th, 2019, 2:14 pm

dle wrote:You need to watch the video - I wish I could find it - I will keep trying - you obviously haven't or you wouldn't have posted this!

This one?

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#249633
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Re: Sask. Bus Accident

Postby Fancy » Feb 25th, 2019, 2:16 pm



passed against oncoming traffic
seems to make it pretty clear what happened.
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