All things Trudeau

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Re: All things Trudeau

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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Gone_Fishin » Jan 11th, 2019, 8:41 pm

Trudeau withholding information in contempt of the Info Commissioner's directive. Trudeau once again telling us that the rules don't apply to him.


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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby floppi » Jan 12th, 2019, 9:24 am

Gone_Fishin wrote:Trudeau withholding information in contempt of the Info Commissioner's directive. Trudeau once again telling us that the rules don't apply to him.


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Ummmm....I'm pretty sure he's got nothing to do with releasing the Firearms Reference Table. It's the RCMP that owns it.

Use of the FRT Web is limited to individuals who have been authorized by the RCMP. Authorized users include members of the police community, specific Public Agents and approved firearm verifiers.

Licensing Agreement

The Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police maintains sole ownership of the software package known as the Firearms Reference Table.


The Commissioner's representative maintains, solely, the right to distribute the data and the associated images of this automated application, as well as all inclusive materials, in the format in which it is presented. You are expressly prohibited from copying, duplicating, reproducing, or otherwise transferring the software and materials for any purpose whatsoever.


This software and the materials contained within may not be modified, networked, loaned, sold or distributed in total or in part, nor may any derivative works be prepared based upon them. You may not electronically copy or transfer the Software or the materials from one computer to another, over a network or otherwise.


http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/onli ... af-eng.htm

If your whining about Bill C-71, I thought you would be pleased as it's one of the promises JT made pre-election and has now implemented. Anything to tighten gun laws is welcome news, imo..... Basically cleaning up another turd laid by Harper and the gang.


The Canadian government unveiled new legislation on Tuesday that will tighten controls over the sale and licensing of firearms, including provisions that would reclassify two controversial families of rifles as prohibited weapons.

The new bill will also boost background checks, require owners to apply for authorizations to transport weapons and require gun vendors to keep a record of sales for at least 20 years.

Given the federal Liberals campaigned on a pledge to tighten up gun laws, it came as no surprise to see the government table Bill C-71, officially known as An Act to Amend Certain Acts and Regulations in Relation to Firearms.............

Shortly before the last federal election, the former Conservative government used new powers it had granted to the federal cabinet to reclassify two types of firearms the RCMP had previously listed as prohibited weapons.

Under the new powers, the cabinet deemed the Swiss Arms and CZ-858 families of rifles as restricted rather than prohibited in what was billed at the time as a move to shore up support among the party’s voter base.

In the new legislation, the Liberals are repealing that decision and stripping cabinet of its power to make partisan downgrades of gun classifications and handing the power to classify firearms back to the RCMP.

Both of those firearms will now be reclassified as prohibited weapons.

According to officials, those who already own a firearm in the Swiss Arms or CZ-858 families can keep it and will be “grandfathered” as long as they comply with the licensing and registration requirements to own a prohibited firearm.

Owners will get an amnesty period and will not be subject to criminal prosecution during that time.

However, the legislation would crack down on the legal transfers of such weapons.

The only time such firearms could be legally transferred under the new legislation will be when they are either given or sold to another grandfathered legal owner or in a sale that exports the gun out of the country.

Officials said they expect that measure will see the number of such firearms owned in Canada decrease over time.


https://globalnews.ca/news/4094224/real ... s-changes/

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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Gone_Fishin » Jan 12th, 2019, 11:46 am

C71, a bill to layer rules on law-abiding citizens while its sister bill C75 reduces penalties for criminal use of firearms by gang-bangers is designed to make the lower IQ Trudeau peanut chuckers feel good. Looks like Trudeau has succeeded on that.
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby hobbyguy » Jan 12th, 2019, 12:44 pm

G_F your anti-gun NRAesque nonsense is just that. It is an alt-right meme that is pure rubbish.

I just renewed my PAL firearms license and it has never been easier for law abiding citizens. The nonsense ginned up by the gun lobby NRA far right goofballs is pure unadulterated rubbish!
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Gone_Fishin » Jan 12th, 2019, 12:49 pm

hobbyguy wrote:G_F your anti-gun NRAesque nonsense is just that. It is an alt-right meme that is pure rubbish.

I just renewed my PAL firearms license and it has never been easier for law abiding citizens. The nonsense ginned up by the gun lobby NRA far right goofballs is pure unadulterated rubbish!


Good thing you renewed it now. Next time, when Trudeau's new rules look at your lifetime history and decide that that charge for a half-smoked joint in your possession when you were 19 years old is a conviction worthy of denying you a renewal 50 years later, you'll get what's coming to you.
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Queen K » Jan 12th, 2019, 1:16 pm

Why are you throwing HG under the bus as a pot smoker who is going to get his via gun control? :135:
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby hobbyguy » Jan 12th, 2019, 1:29 pm

Gone_Fishin wrote:
hobbyguy wrote:G_F your anti-gun NRAesque nonsense is just that. It is an alt-right meme that is pure rubbish.

I just renewed my PAL firearms license and it has never been easier for law abiding citizens. The nonsense ginned up by the gun lobby NRA far right goofballs is pure unadulterated rubbish!


Good thing you renewed it now. Next time, when Trudeau's new rules look at your lifetime history and decide that that charge for a half-smoked joint in your possession when you were 19 years old is a conviction worthy of denying you a renewal 50 years later, you'll get what's coming to you.


Stuff and nonsense. The alt-right jerks are whining and sniveling like little crybabies because Canada won't let them have machine guns.

There are zero unreasonable restrictions on legitimate use firearms. Hunting and target shooting firearms are not in any danger. I don't hunt any more, but was taught that a good hunter only needs one shot.

I would remind you that Australia has had a complete ban on semi-automatic and automatic firearms since the 1990s, and nope, the sky did not fall.

As a responsible firearms owner, I am all for restricting firearms to those needed for legitimate purposes. Playing little prepubescent boy games with high fire rate/high capacity military style weapons is not one of those. Nor is playing pretend thug games with handguns.

JT and the LIberals are 100% correct in pursuing a legitimate use only firearms policy.
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Catsumi » Jan 12th, 2019, 1:31 pm

Once we start posting personal attacks or questioning personal motives for a post, this thread will be sent to Bicker which has happened in the past. Can we please refrain from such behaviour or else use PMs for attacks? Thanks :biggrin:

In the meantime, here is some reading material


https://nationalpost.com/opinion/chris- ... -searching
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby hobbyguy » Jan 12th, 2019, 1:42 pm

Gone_Fishin wrote:C71, a bill to layer rules on law-abiding citizens while its sister bill C75 reduces penalties for criminal use of firearms by gang-bangers is designed to make the lower IQ Trudeau peanut chuckers feel good. Looks like Trudeau has succeeded on that.


More garbage. What the heck are you reading?

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/csj-sjc/jsp-sjp/c75/p3.html

Go ahead, make your ridiculous case that somehow that C75 is soft on gang-bangers. Where in that? Nope. It is NOT there, it is just more barfed up nonsense from the alt-right.

And NO, C71 is not a major change, but is just sensible: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tasker-gun-bill-c71-explainer-1.4833034

C71 will not cause anything onerous on law abiding gun owners, it basically just reverses Harper's pandering to the NRA and alt-right for a few crummy votes - that resulted in making Canada less safe.
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby hobbyguy » Jan 12th, 2019, 1:58 pm

Catsumi wrote:Once we start posting personal attacks or questioning personal motives for a post, this thread will be sent to Bicker which has happened in the past. Can we please refrain from such behaviour or else use PMs for attacks? Thanks :biggrin:

In the meantime, here is some reading material


https://nationalpost.com/opinion/chris- ... -searching


Yup, JT has gained the education that only experience can teach. Good for him.

Selley confirms my low opinion of his primary contender:

"Scheer had reacted snarkily to McKenna’s suggestion that spending money on public transit and new technologies like electric vehicles will help Canada meet its Paris emissions targets."

JT ain't perfect, but one heck of a lot better that Mr. "points in the game" Scheer.

OF course spending money on public transit and technologies like electric car infrastructure will help us to meet our Paris emissions targets. Sheer can't be stupid enough to not realize that, and to realize that those are win-win for consumers (mass transit saves people time and money, electric car infrastructure gives consumers more options).

So what was Scheer trying to say? Nothing. Playing silly "points in the game" nonsense and wink-wink dog whistle with the far right.

Governance is not about such things Andrew, and it is cheering to see JT showing his experience and saying so.
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Merry » Jan 12th, 2019, 4:22 pm

Catsumi wrote:https://nationalpost.com/opinion/chris-selley-tis-the-season-for-liberal-soul-searching

Excellent article; well worth the read. Makes some very good points; here's just a few of them:
The Liberals can deplore overheated conservative rhetoric and implausible solutions on asylum-seekers and people crossing the border illegally all they like, but it’s not going to help any of the 68,000 people stuck in a now-years-long queue get their claims heard any quicker. Nor is it any excuse for not having devoted the resources necessary to stop that queue from doubling and tripling and quadrupling under their watch. The Liberals completely botched this file while boasting of their compassion, and real people see right through it.

In opposition, the Liberals deplored the Conservatives passing various legislation that proved vulnerable to the Charter. In government, they have passed a law allowing police to breathalyze anyone without any suspicion of impairment. It may well get torn to shreds in court; it will undoubtedly be deployed in a discriminatory fashion that Liberals will find themselves deploring in future. Violating people’s rights isn’t better when Liberals do it.


The Liberals’ touchy-feely approach to getting pipelines built is as ineffectual as the Conservatives’ berserker war. There is no moral difference between the Conservatives selling weapons to Saudi Arabia and the Liberals selling them. And there is no Magic Liberal Pill that settles squabbles with foreign governments. Many Canadians gorged themselves in 2015 at the buffet of Liberal myths. In 2019, it’s going to be about their record.
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jan 12th, 2019, 5:26 pm

hobbyguy wrote:
Governance is not about such things Andrew, and it is cheering to see JT showing his experience and saying so.


All JT has shown us is that he is an arrogant vapid jerk with below-average intelligence. He may have "experience" now, but he's still a bonehead, and will continue to be a bonehead, unworthy of Canadian votes.
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